Posts by kdchan

Quote from Sweet.Shiro.Neko

The real question is... Will GameForge make enought profits from a Classic server?

This is a serious question because over the past years I have know several "pirate" servers who offer/ed what you would call Classic TERA. Max level 60 with open world pvp and pk of lowbies. Guess what? In these years they just keep shuting down because of they cant reach the donation cuota to keep their servers up. What do you expect a company like GF will do looking at that?

Didn't do much pvp back then, for open world content i do not mean only this, but harder BAMS, guild wars, Nexus, etc... pvp is just an extra that create more a living world.

Regarding classic, i think so, Lineage 2, Wow, Runescape, Everquest 2, etc... all have official classic servers and they are still a thing, because normal and classics are two different games, so they will have 2 different playerbases.

This thread have more than 3000+ viewers (the other one more than 5000+), so i think there is enought interest, at least on par if not more than the normal one. There is demand for a classic servers, expecially for a old game like Tera that changed so much from the first version.

Quote from Om3Ga

Says the one that played this game for a month and than left. Just to come back multiple times and play a few days to just leave the game again. You are a casual.

I compared to you played from the beginning and never left till today.

I'm a founder player since the game was p2p and play for over a year straight. But not here at GF, at En Masse, then i switch here in 2013. Infact i have 2 accounts and both are founders.

I leave the game in 2014-2015 after the f2p and the boring direction of the game. Never like new content, because they remove Nexus and all open world stuff, boosting grinding and farming in dungeons. Liked however the blast from the past downscaling feature.

Tera was a good game because is was a open world mmorpg, now is just an instanced brawler.

This is my case, i will never play actual Tera anymore, this is a fact, will back only for a classic server, but do not expect either other old players to play this iteration. We only back for a VM1 or max VM2 Tera because is the Tera we loved.

Quote from Om3Ga

I havn't played on the first "classic" server and i wouldn't even play on next one.

Calm down dude and do not be so negative, since you never played it in the first place you do not have any idea the feeling of the old game and how different it was from the actual Tera.

Infact who want the classic Tera aren't just nostalgics or elite pvpers, but also people who like the base core of the old game as a whole.

A classic server won't affect you or the actual playerbase, never, old players or players who stop to play wont come back and play this Tera anyway, they will only back to play with the old rulesets.

If not is just more players and money for GF not less since the new players who will back are players who already left Tera or tried the game and didn't like it.

Setting a classic server is also a easy task for BH since they already did it about a year ago, they already have the client set and ready. just nedd some minor changes and won't take away people or resources from the current "development" of Tera. Hope this is more clear.

Quote from Tadeshi

Case in point. Prime example of the "Nostalgic Player".

Well, is not really nostalgia, but the base core of the game that was very different from how Tera is today.

These old years Tera was really fun because the game had many different features, like bams, open pvp and nexus, now is just a empty farming and grinding fest in these dungeons for your daily intake of mats. This is just awfull, redundant and boring af.

Just my 2 cents.

Quote from Kirino EU

Hi,

Just giving a short update as to what the main responses from the poll have been after 1 week (roughly 800 responses as of 28 January 2021).

• A majority of the players are interested in a Classic server
• There seems to be a close split between what people consider a classic server to be between level 60 and 65
• Around 60% of the people would prefer a F2P model should a Tera classic ever be made and the remaining 40% would prefer a type of payment (P2P/B2P).
• A majority of the responses say they would still play should there no maintenances or anti-bot&gold system
• 40% would expect new content on a classic server and 25% would not. The remaining 35% do not mind as long as there is a a poll to decide what is added
• Even if a Tera Classic requires a P2P model a majority of the players would still be willing to play.

I’m not sure if the makeup of the poll responses in terms of percentages for each question will change however we will keep the poll open for longer to see how many more responses we can get.

We will share this with Gameforge in the hopes of them analysing the responses to send to BHS or just sending the responses directly to them.

Thanks

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Hello and thank you for all your work and efford to make a classic server a possibility. I still have faith and hope that GF can consider it since there is enought demand.

The normal game is declining, and the only content added is just more race/classes combo, grind and farm dungeons while everything else is dead.

Will support you as much as i can, as i said before i prefer a B2P model like GW2 + cosmetic item shop for ingame gold or real money, hopefully GF thanks to this poll and demand will consider a separate classic and permanent server based on 2012 VM1 and expand the game from such turning point without screwing the foundamental of the game that attract lots of people back then.

As you can notice, i'm one of these old players that stopped back around in 2014-2015 after the game turned free to play. I back sometimes after, but the game changed so much, was so easy and everyone solo BAMs, i was really disgusted and disappointed to the point that log-in was boring and eventually i left again back to GW2.

You know what make GW2 better? They add content and more maps not screwing the BASE game. If you want to play old content you can simply back to old maps and do world bosses and dynamic events like in the past. Every sone and map is unique.

The level never increased, the grind for gear was never a thing, what attract GW2 is dinamic events, world bosses and non battle stuff you do on the fly and you never feel behind other people.

Mean you log-in and do what you want without thinking of grinding or advance in gear, since gear not matter much and base gear that allow you to handle everything is easy to get, you play with other random people and have fun for 1-2 hours then you log-out and back the day after and do something else. This is the best selling point of the game and is how Tera was before they add the grinfest and farming for gear.

I liked and played Tera untill they remove the "blast from the past" downleveling dungeon feature, the Nexus and pvp open world content, i had a blast with these features, infact i logged in everyday to do such old dungeons with new or old players for fascion coupons and other usefull items only for the fun, these dungeons where not easy like now but hard and require coordination and full class trinity (healer + tanker + dps). Even low level dungeons weren't easy.

These were the golden days of Tera where everything was more hard and require coordination between guilds and parties, where people log-in like you do today with GW2, just for the daily dose of fun and not because grind and farm.

Tera should be again a fun game without the tedious tasks they added later, Tera should be a game that you play with friends and beat dynamic stuff.

Thank to all old and also new players to support a classic server, the only possibile way to save the game from a inevitable death. Tera deserve much better that increase the cap and farm mats for powerfull gear, Tera deserve to be fun again like in the past free from crap like levels, gear farming, skill boost, and other tedious tasks no one like to do.

Signed, will not back to play actual Tera unless in the old iteration, do not like all this tedious grind and farming with the last years patches, it completely ruined the foundamental of the game.

Want the more difficult and challenging game, where you just log-in and play with friends open world events, guild wars or old dungeons.

As support method i'm fine with GW2 model, pay once and rest is maintained with the fascion shop. Yes, you read it right, i will pay a one time fee just to play the old game, i have no problem in doing so.

Features i want to like to see is the game core keep till "blast from the past" feature and no reaper, where even at a level 60 you can downlevel to play old dungeons with new players, open world Nexus, unrestricted open world pvp with karma system, flying mounts can be a good addition but not mandatory, what's matter is the baseline concept of 2012 Tera, rest can be upgraded but the core and difficulty should stay 2012, aka difficult to beat BAMS, a game where you require a party or other players to complete certain tasks and not the today easy mode like many other crappy mmorpgs.

Please GF make this happening.

Hello, old 2012 p2p player here (i have a founder account), i really miss the last Tera Classic server, can you at Gameforge please consider another event like this with old VM1 content?

Like a lot the open world Nexus system and Blast from the Past dungeons feature where you can downlevel yourself and repeat the old dungeons with new players for fascion coupons or other usefull items, i did it so many times in the past till BH studio remove this feature, then after i hit 65 i leaved the game since it became a bam and dungeon grindfest where open world and pvp became useless. This killed Tera for me, i do not like the new skill and ability system.

I like to play a mmorpg with tons of people in the same area, it give me a feeling of freedom and warm.

Please GF consider to open a permament server with 2012 p2p content and level 60 cap, with Nexus, Blast form the past dungeon system, and open world pvp content, i will back to play. Guaranteed.

@Vayus - Please tell GF to consider this, expecially for players who do not play anymore because they do not like the last updates and where the game is heading, thank you.

ps: Maybe someone can open a pool to gather enought request to open a classic server?

Quote from alexs;1386628

Bye I won't miss you.

I wont miss you too.

Thanks to this reply now i have finally made my final decision on what i will play this year.

See ya.

Quote from gchris;1385788

Raven, or any one from the community representatives.
Care to answer on a single question that everyone is having after your letter?

So as we all understood the ONLY difference from the US Version will be the blood splatter effect and NOTHING else.
The question is, is there a possibility that in the future we might get more censoring compared to the US due to the PEGI 12?

They will not reply because they will lose more and more players. They 100% will censor more the game because in Korea the game is for 18+ people and all the patches are intended for a mature and adult community.

Frogster, the protector of imaginary kiddos. How pathetic.

Another thing since you offend all the Elin fans, i've played all the betas till now with the original Korean Elin armours, i swapped the files, like a lot of people do and if i will play this game again in future (not here for sure) i will do the same again, without regret.
I'm a normal player an not an unsavioury user like you claim, your stupid excuses to protect imaginary people is pathetic, what you want is only money, is because you censor the elin and take away the blood to keep the german laws at 12+.

You don't care about your player base at all and you deserve to sink.

Quote from Raven;1383967

Elins were once more pointed at. Yes, the appearance of the Elins has been changed in both northern American and European version of the game. Not to comply with a demand from any official board, but because those characters in particular could have attracted to the game a population of unsavoury users, and it is part of our responsibility to protect our younger audiences from them.

Eh? Are you for real? Majority here are 18+, and what about this race attracted unsavoury users? Now that u have put box and cover the belly these mysterious and imaginary "unsavoury" users will not come? do you really think so? This excuse is pathetic.
In every mmorpg i played in the past if a user continusly harass another player this user get banned, your statement seems that elin players are a bunch of rude and bad people. Your statement is very offensive and denigratory.

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All partners involved in the project decided to ask Bluehole Studios for a solution, so they created new textures and designs for Elin wear. We are sure you all agree that this effort for child protection was the right thing to do. We all did, here, at Frogster.

I disagree because the motivation is stupid, they are all speculations, also is very offensive on you community, a mature community for a mature game.

Ad what about the Pegi 12? In the end you wil lcensor the game anyway, forcing on me your gemran law policy.

Sorry but you Frogster fail hard, with excuses, speculations and lies. I'm not play here, never. You lose a customer and more will play on the NA server because EME at least know that this game is intended for a mature community not for a bunch of kiddos, becuase kiddos shouldn't play mmorpg in the first place so there is nothing to protect here.

Also i repeat last time because seems you wont understand the issue:

THIS GAME IS CREATED FOR A MATURE AUDIENCE, NOT FOR CHILDRENS. YOU HAVE TO PROTECT NOBODY BECAUSE IF YOU RAISE THE PEGI AT 16 ALL THE ISSUE DISAPPEAR. KIDS SHOULDN'T PLAY THIS GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Sayonara Frogster.

The only issue i see on this is the speculation, i imagine these scrolls will cost milions or more in term of ingame gold, forcing people to farm a lot of gold to be able to buy them. In the end is better buy a monthly subscription and play relaxed or fix a maximun price for these scrolls.

In asia there are prepaid hours cards, you pay only the time you log in the game, why a system like this can't be implemented in the west too? This or a b2p + cosmetic cash shop item will be more suitable for this kind of themepark and will attract more casual players with limited free time.
Also i like the Aion f2p model, in order to fight gold sellers and spammers they limit the free account (you can't use chat, you can't buy item from auction house, you can't do istances more than 1 at day and so on), if you want unlock more features and become a veteran account you can pay money 1 time, if you want full features you pay a monthly free.

The solutions to attract more people to the game without limiting the playerbase to a niche and be profitable for a company at the same time are a lot and all valid.
Dislike the full p2p model, it will not last in the long run, imo.

Quote from Oblivion;883741

There is something called OPEN BETA, people here are insane if they think that this CBT is the end of the world if they can't try it out for a darn moment.

No, is a mistake of Frogster, they should have been put full informations about timeframe of betas so people that can't effort play in these particular hours avoided pre-order the game and waste money. Amirite?
The concern of the playerbase is legit anf they have the rights to complain this time.

Quote from Zolwiol;883633

And no one told us it would be 15:00-0:00. It was just "Starts: 17.02 Ends: 19.02"

You'd think if it was such limited timeframe any sane company would inform their costumers before thay paid for it

I'm absolutely agree with this, if Frogster can't handle 24/7, they should refund players that can't play in this timeframe. They do not post complete informations before people pre-order the game.

Quote from Saronix;883528

Tbh it makes no sense to start the test at 15:00 when all the kids will get home from school and stuff, and why would you end it at 00:00, seriously the US CBT wasn't this shitty, servers should be up from 00:00 friday to 00:00 sunday, jesus fucking christ frogster.

Ahahah but you are right mate.

Ask a refund if you can't play in between these hours.

Lol it suck for you guys that yuo have limited time in Eu version, i'm lucky that i can play 24/7 in the Us server, i have 400 ms but well who cares.
But i know how you guys feel, Frogster should allow you to play 24/7 on these CBT, made a limit = less subs, this is for sure.

Btw, for people complaining about pvp content not included in pve servers, don't be carebear and roll in the pvp server, join a big full pvp and active guild that can defend your ass and have fun. That's all, our version will have 2 server, pve for people who like endless pve and bams raids, and pvp for people who like endless pk, GvG and a costant challenge.

PvP server FTW! Ever!

Succesfully installed. With my surprise this time the Us client fail and forced me to reinstall from zero. ><
1 point to Frogster.

Patch notes will be appreciated, server pvp here too?

Quote from bluumberry;537751

Whose bright idea is it to release it in 2012?

The big content update for K Tera will be at beginning of 2012 with the Demon Beast of Destruction. Probably they wait this.

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Good luck in competition with GW2 and SW. Not.

Well, this will be sure a hard battle in 2012 considering AAA competitors. Time will tell and good luck.

Quote from moeppers;537694

you always were a very logical person, kiddochan.

Oh, your ignorance amaze me as always in every place you put the nose.

Quote from RivAngE;537712

Ofcourse, the client will be the same after all, we get the same release dates and brobably testing dates.
Source: http://www.tera-online.com/node/854

Yea i notice now, for a weird reason the link bring me back here. Well, good for them.