Posts by kdchan

Quote from Rip_Tera_2014

I would like to know if people like you that stopped playing few years ago, do actually know about the recent problems with gameforge?

Missing classing problem is one of the smallest problems of all others in the recent years.

You might have the feeling by reading recent posts, but you can't actually feel the agony on your flesh.

I know right, indeed didn't played last content but can be only worse overtime, since i noticed that updates are just the same crap over and over. I recognized Tera only back then as a decent game, since i were a p2p player.

Quote from john4iri

Let split the few ppl left playing the game even more.

Sounds great idea.

How can you split people that do not play the game to begin with?
Is years i'm not playing anymore, will back only for a classic server, do not like actual vision of Tera and will never play it again.

Quote from Panwu

When you lunch a classic server to closed it 2 month after and transfert all caracters on the empty current version... If you succes, you should play euromillions.

Please that was not a try that haven't any sence

Listen to

Announce a tera classic in this form with no closing date :

- We want the Classic PvP Server

- 60 level max.
- Every instance at that time like Labyrinth of Terror Hard, Manaya Hard, Kelsaik 20 with same old drop table.

- No new classes, basic 8 only. (NO REAPER)

- Old UI.

- Old PvP zones.

- Isle of Dawn as start zone.

- Campfire and charms.

- No flying mount as usual..

- Nexus is available for this event time only.

- Battleground & Dungeon Rankings

- GvG nexus time or normal time

- Enjoying world open PvP

- Fraywind Canyon 15v15

- Corsair Stronghold 20v20

- Champions Skyrim 3v3 - Equalized 3v

We don't need UPDATE, we just need interactive event in game like pvp or GvG tournament on sunday drive by a GM in front of velika => With rewards

In this old game people knew them each other cause nexus times link people (or unlink but it's cool)... Open PVP make you indentified a bastard => That's what generate gvg...

That's how a community grows that's not with a instance luncher.

Why no one in GF wanna lead the project ? In 2022 a serveur don't cost so much and you have this version, you lead it when you go on F2P.

If your argue is not enough people interested... Rent a little serv ! Come on, works for your clients not always for money. I can help ! And many people could help in this topic to create a amazing version.

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Nice summary, i agree with such content, these were the golden age of the game, also pvp non instanced and everywhere were really fun, true guild wars, expecially hunting for bosses and hub small battles.
But how much time passed since this topic was opened? Guess they do not care anymore and never did since the beginning, they just milk what's left before the game eventually close, the actual situation in europe do not help either, but hopefully a different company can take over the game and consider a separate vanilla server. Tera is now a classic game, one of the few survived for many years, it just need people and devs who really care.

Quote from sati

So today marks one whole year of GF "evaluating the feedback" and in return not providing ANY INFORMATION from their Team about a possible old build Server*. Not even BHS, but GF internal TERA Team which probably consists of like 1 person who spends max 1 hour per week on "TERA project".

Thanks for always taking care of this community. Not that I'm surprised, you clearly treat TERA as a "finished project not worth investing any additional work/time" for like a few years already and are just milking what you can until you finally pull the plug off. No wonder you manage to lose your publishing license for other titles. Shame BHS is in the same league as you in this aspect.

* like I already wrote here - I highly doubted and still doubt that GF would ever do it, but at least they for once could drop the "we have forwarded all the feedback" charade.

Seems a lost cause, but at least we tried till the very end.

Quote from Zdzisiu

Don't expect news about Tera when they are releasing this crap elyon. When this trash fail then they will looking for other kind of fast monetisation. So maybe then they will do something about classic Tera.

Yep, Elyon is very bad, is just aesthetic with no substance, bland and generic, old Tera was on another completely level, a blast from the past.

Quote from dkang

I can remember back in 2012/2013 how devs were communicating with their community and now? I think the end is near, i just feel like fail-forge will soon announce a shut down of eu servers honestly. I can figure this out after how they communicate with their community.

Their silence might be an answer. It is a bad sign.

Any news about korean TERA devs reply about this matter? Is a while since there are no news.

Quote from batangdalagita

I went straight to the Korean staff and Work team creator of the game and my apologies to bypass Krafton, Bluehole and the said publisher of GameForge without there consent. In there own native korean language in my inquiry on my appoinment interview about the said game Tera.

They said... Yes they do plan to make a classic one, and to there description on the said classic Tera Game. be a characters with no buffs, and no build, no power ups, as in the word classic meaning a Arcade version. You play to the core of the pain playing. Just like a street fighter game. And ask them again as i thought i must miss heard them no they were dead serious. A massive downgrade Classic Tera to allow fast action and player to player combat. And removed open world map exploration.

and i just finish my inquiry interview much quicker than scheduled on my shocked realization, I hate PvP as of where the conversation is going... and just thank them for there time and my apologies to end it more earlier on the scheduled appointment said interview.

What? Wait, but why? Why they do not just do something Lineage 2, WoW, Everquest, did with a true classic server?

Nobody ask for an arcade beat'em up version, a completely different concept and game, also without open world? Uh? Just a pvp arena i guess?

Give me a break... it make no sense, if this is the result then is better that they do not consider a "classic" Tera and just let this title die, and leave everything to a different developer that care and can make a true classic server hoe the fans want.

Meh, why developers and publishers do not listen to their own playerbase?

A pvp instanced arena is a guaranteed failure. With this topic having more than 14000 views, the hottest thread in this forum, and people interested in a classic Tera, they really waste all the interest is something this? Is their best idea? This is beyond common sense and any business logic.

Hope they reconsider this choice, if these are their true intentions about the Tera franchise. Please update this thread with more info when available.

Quote from Flukey

i dont wanna say it, but since its the truth it needs to be said, gameforge, bluehole, whoevers in charge, HAVE killed the best PVP mmo that has come out in the last 15 years...

Right? This is why we prefer the classic Tera with the old core system and rulesets.

Quote from Tadeshi

Greetings Everyone,

I was told about something just recently, and I checked it for myself just to be sure.

In the following KTera Devnotes the following has been stated:

https://playtera.co.kr/news/devnotes/191

This means that at the very least, the KTera side is actually considering opening a Classic server.

However this does not confirm that the EU side is also considering it as of yet.

There are also no details whatsoever on what "classic" exactly means - such as what patch, what systems and what other things we could expect.

Google Translator was also used, so I'm not sure how reliable it is, however you can check it for yourself or perhaps ask a korean-speaking friend if you can.

What I'd personally like to ask from all of this is the following:

- Like I mentioned before, this doesn't confirm anything at all, especially for the EU side yet. Don't go crazy yet people.

- It is however considered by the KTera side. (Under the to-be-approved status - could end up being rejected)

- Which CAN mean that it is also considered for EU side (but not confirmed, and same thing applies as on KTera!).

Things may be looking bright, but before we all jump on the hype train, think about everything calmly and thoroughly.

I for one, would like to ask one more thing if classic will happen - I'd like to suggest making an official poll from GF asking the playerbase what they/we want as a "classic" server (sampling Kirino's unofficial survey could be a good start) - This way, we actually get what the people most voted for, therefore if it ends up as a fail, the community only has to blame themselves and not GF for how the server ended up - such as game version (patch number), unchanged systems, changed systems, leveling/gearing process, etc. etc.

Discuss reasonably and logically - now you might officially be risking the outcome of a real classic server.

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Very good job mate, thank you a lot for all the effort even if GF will not listen.

KTera devs (Krafton) at least know that there is interest and a possible playerbase that prefer the classic Tera. This reply is a ray of hope for us old fans.

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I believe that with this publisher its not possible to make "good classic comeback" its been proven thru years with Aion/TERA that they dont want to communicate and simple dont care they dont even goin to publish next incoming MMORPG from TERA creators which is ELYON and they have same mmorpgs for years without new projects and soulworkers closed/aion broken/metin2 problems with bans its possible that in next 5 years or even faster they just gonna close like enmasse did.

I know right? But we at least give our feedback and opinions, if they do not want listen is their right but also their last chance, i'm just waiting the game collapse and close and hopefully another publisher better suited to handle the game and listen to the players takeover everything.

Quote from Sweet.Shiro.Neko

What era on TERA could be considered the best patch to make this "classic server" a better choice and probably a better bussiness than the big failure that was TERA back on 2012? Obviously TERA from 2015. Tadeshi's idea of a classic server for TERA.

All people claiming a TERA Classic server based on 2012 patches will be an huge success, you have no proof, you have no facts, and history taught us well. If back on those days people were unwillingly to support the game enought to be a bussiness in that p2p model, What makes you think people will do it now when they didnt do it in the past?

The game arise in subs when passed from p2p to b2p, indeed the p2p model was excessive back then for a game just released and with some issues. But just after the b2p new business model and new patches the game reach the "golden age".

I'm also fine with Tadeshi pov, as long as there are difficult bams and party content, open world guild wars, nexus and blast from the past sidekick dungeon feature, i think is the correct base concept to start the "classic" Tera. The game decline was when they arise the cap to 65 along all the crappy patches that destroy the open world content fun and party related features, imo.

Krafton can also let another company to handle a classic server if GF do not like the idea or they do not have the resources to do it. After all vanilla Tera was a completely different game compared to the actual Tera.

On the other hand, Lineage 2 classic, WoW classic and Runescape classic were made in the end, because the old experience is something that a lot of players prefer over new concept of modern mmorpg where everything is easy and everyone is the solo hero.

Keep this thread alive for any update on the matter. Thanks.

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It's highly impractical to make a server like that, maybe a temporary one yes, a permanent one is out of the question because it won't be profitable and it also adds extra work(maintenance, upkeep, updates) and staff members.

What a silly statement, is obvious that need maintenance like a regular server, but if there is enought people who play in a classic server (like L2 classic, wow classic, etc...) then they can do it like they do with the normal one, they are the publisher and is their job to di it properly.

And no, make it temporary is beyond any sane logic, who the hell will play on a server with a wipe? We need a perma one updated on a regular basis.

Quote from Kirino EU

Hi all,

Creator of this “poll” here.

Just thought I should clarify a few things so as to give a better idea as to why I thought it would be useful to make the poll.

1. Multiple Entries - There was the option of having it limited to one entry per person by requiring an email address to be entered (can’t remember if it had to be a google specific one). I decided against this as I didn’t want to be collecting the personal data (email addresses ) of respondents and Gameforge might have been reluctant to accept any of the gathered responses due to potential GDPR concerns.
2. Legitimacy of the site used - when considering the site to use to gather responses I was first going to use surveymonkey as I was most familiar with it. However I decided to use Google Forms as pretty much everyone knows and ‘trusts’ google (at least I hope).

Number of people voting - As mentioned above I knew that there was the possibility of people making multiple entries however the purpose of the poll was not to “gather votes”. I won’t argue to say ‘x’ amount of people want a classic server however it’s pretty apparent when you look at factors such as the views of this thread, the views on the classic server gameforge YouTube videos, the number of people on unofficial classic server discords and the constant cries of players that there is at least “some” interest in a classic server.

For this reason I decided to create the “poll” not to gather votes but to actually see what people are asking for when they say a “classic server” and to display this in an easy to read way.

The things you should be looking at from the results of the “poll” are things such as the split between people wanting a 60 compared to a 65 classic server.

Similarly the the split between people willing to pay or people who expect maintenance/continued development/content on a classic server.

The results have been shared with Gameforge and the public (and I’ve also received a response from BHS who “claim” they are willing to look at) to see which was the intention of the poll. It was not to “get gameforge to make a classic server” but rather to “show what people mean when they say they want a classic server” (like many posts on the forum).

I hope this helps clear up any misinformation.

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Thank you for these detailed infos mate, you did also a great job contacting BH directly. Hope they listen and take this passionate interest into something serious and real.

Quote from Om3Ga

Splitting current playerbase is stupid. Fix the game instead.

Again with all these lies and false statements?

Is so hard to underastand that old players of players who don't like the actual Tera will NEVER play the new Tera and VICEVERSA?

Do not worry about the actual players, they will never leave their filled banks, costume, gear and talent progress to back to a old game where they need to start from scratch.

Old playerbase is completely different from the actual playerbase, old players want a difficult game where party and guilds were mandatory, where open world was a thing, while actual players want the easy way and solo content where you can progress alone from 1 to cap.

Is easy and simple, like new Lineage 2 vs Lineage Classic, new Wow vs WoW classic, these two playerbase have a completely different concept of the game and will never merge together.

Hope is more clear now and i hope i do not see again these risiculous topics claiming that a classic server can split the actual playerbase.

Moreover, 900 people voted, 900~1000 is the peak of the actual player base, even if only 500-600 people will back to play the old classic Tera, Gameforge will almost double the total amount of accounts who play Tera, so is something they should seriously consider.

This topic have more than 6000+ views, is the most viewed topic in the whole forum, this is also another hint that there is a lot of interest cause also the lacks of new mmorpgs on the market, actual mmorpgs are so easy, boring and just a solo brawler experience that nobody play them anymore, calling actual mmo with that name is an insult of true and old mmorpgs.

ps: My personal opinion, if GF will ever make a classic server: please listen to the players and do not add content people not want, game concept should be the one before Reaper got introduced. Add content not remove it. Remove censorship, almost a decade passed, nobody cares anymore about such a trivial thing.
Make it B2P like GW2 with fascion cash shop only, or full P2P with the possibility to buy game time with ingame money too. Attract old players or player who stopped to play advertising the game around mmo communities. do not waste this last opportunity to make Tera great again. Be smart and make a classic Tera for a mature playerbase.

Quote from threea

Hello, we have forwarded all the feedback from the community survey directly to our team.

However, there is nothing new we can share with you about it at the moment, in case there is something in the future, we will let you know.

Well, thank you. However, even if the answer is negative, please tell us anyway. At least you can show that you are not just a forum filter between us and the developers.

Looking forward any update, hope we can have a positive reply both from you and BH or Krafton (or how they are called now).

Quote from Joey

For me I can consider playing on classic server only with these two conditions:
- Game will be fully uncensored. (What was the point censoring gear when swimsuits released few months later revealed more skin than gear itself?)
- End game content won't be boring as hell. (Guard missions are good example how to make game little more fun or adding more interesting ways how to progress gear.)

I'm sure these conditions will never be fulfilled same as I'm almost sure classic server will never be a thing (unless they find out how to milk players). Game already making small profit so there are no much resources to make any changes for classic version. And release old unchanged buggy and boring version is unwise in my opinion considering the history. There is nothing more I can say and this is my last post in this topic.

I can agree with your conditions (i'm 100% against censorship as you can see from my signature and avatar), the game need to be maintaned indeed, however i don't agree about that the old Tera was borging, yes end game was boring at beginning, when the game was just released, but they fixed it some months later with new content and fixes. I said so as a founder pay to play player, so i was there 9 years ago.

Now what people talking about in the actual game vs old done, the new one is a completely different game, easy, filled with grind and farm, repetitive, stagnating, but worst thing is, they do not keep the old content, like for example in GW2 where you can back to play the old content without new abilities and "masteries" (that aren't mandatory), they completely erase the old content and change the base core of the game, removing open world content, watering down the difficulty, killing guild wars and pvp, etc...

Other mmorpg never removed old content, they only add new content for new maps, separating old stuff and new, while in Tera they change, removing and watering down old content.

In the mmorps i mentioned above where they completely change the game, like in Lineage 2 and wow, they succesfull relaunch the classic server and patch it from there but keep the base core, as the playerbase demand.

There is demand for a classic server, this topic surpass 4000+ views, you can't reach such milestone with the only actual player base. Actual playerbase is tiny because the game is not interesing anymore, so do not be negative but happy if they consider a classic server and spread the voice around mmo communities to lure in more people.

Indeed, i still think that there is a lot of interest at the moment since there is nothinf new on the market, or better, the mmorpg market id dead, you do not need to trust me but numbers and stats, the normal server have a very low population since lots of older players didn't like where the game is heading and because is pretty stagnating and redundant.

Even if there are 2 servers, a normal and a classic with the same population is anyway a success for GF, is almost double the income. GF should seriosuly consider to support a classic perma server with a possible GW2 support model (buy to play with cosmetic item shop) before the interest will vanish forever.

Other older mmorpg classic server are today still succesfull because, again, there is nothing new to play and the best mmorpg are of course the ones from the past.

Quote from Sweet.Shiro.Neko

The real question is... Will GameForge make enought profits from a Classic server?

This is a serious question because over the past years I have know several "pirate" servers who offer/ed what you would call Classic TERA. Max level 60 with open world pvp and pk of lowbies. Guess what? In these years they just keep shuting down because of they cant reach the donation cuota to keep their servers up. What do you expect a company like GF will do looking at that?

Didn't do much pvp back then, for open world content i do not mean only this, but harder BAMS, guild wars, Nexus, etc... pvp is just an extra that create more a living world.

Regarding classic, i think so, Lineage 2, Wow, Runescape, Everquest 2, etc... all have official classic servers and they are still a thing, because normal and classics are two different games, so they will have 2 different playerbases.

This thread have more than 3000+ viewers (the other one more than 5000+), so i think there is enought interest, at least on par if not more than the normal one. There is demand for a classic servers, expecially for a old game like Tera that changed so much from the first version.

Quote from Om3Ga

Says the one that played this game for a month and than left. Just to come back multiple times and play a few days to just leave the game again. You are a casual.

I compared to you played from the beginning and never left till today.

I'm a founder player since the game was p2p and play for over a year straight. But not here at GF, at En Masse, then i switch here in 2013. Infact i have 2 accounts and both are founders.

I leave the game in 2014-2015 after the f2p and the boring direction of the game. Never like new content, because they remove Nexus and all open world stuff, boosting grinding and farming in dungeons. Liked however the blast from the past downscaling feature.

Tera was a good game because is was a open world mmorpg, now is just an instanced brawler.

This is my case, i will never play actual Tera anymore, this is a fact, will back only for a classic server, but do not expect either other old players to play this iteration. We only back for a VM1 or max VM2 Tera because is the Tera we loved.