Posts by nao623

    All i know is you cant go more than 20-30 HPM in Shield barrage without special sause and above all 90% of the lancers dont have more HPM than this ........and mister grandmaster here has 100HPM

    I dont need to explain more than the guy who created the script. I posted the screenshot with the login info from ultimate lancer already.

    The creator literally begs people not to abuse it.

    You're clearly living in 2018 if you think 20-30 hpm in SB is what people in vanilla get these days, that aside, as i said you're clueless and just bark for the sake of it, the creator wasn't begging for people to not abuse it, he straight up restricted it, but I guess you're not up to date, since all you see is screenshots from weeks ago that people repost.

    Beside whatever ur first point is supposed to mean.

    b) Ever thought you're just bad if that's what you think.

    c) You're just proving me that u pull shit out of nowhere, there are no scripts that influence the cd in any way, not gonna get into details since you've just proved that you're clueless about how anything works, but yes that's server sided and can't be manipulated if that was one of your beliefs.

    Also nobody said u called people "low IQs" was never addressed at you.

    First of all, Exitlag doesn't alter the packets themselves, only the routing, while ngsp emulates the skill on the client side, but am sure you're "high iq" and know that already, I don't know what point you're trying to make, ngsp emulates 0 ping gameplay, which is impossible to get. You can't compare a packet manager software to a VPN, and say "yes they're the same", because they're definitely not, but well, you seem to be pretty "high iq" and should know that emulating something that's not achievable in vanilla is "cheating", while the reason why skill prediction was developed is a good cause, it doesn't make it any more ethical than any other script. But well, seeing your reasoning, i bet you and many other used skill prediction in the tournament and thought "i'm ethical/vanilla".

    Anyway, you could do your research and at least google why NA Tera lost most of their playerbase a few years back, (hint: it's related to toolbox being bannable)

    nao623 This ^ he/she said it better than I ever could, also GF messed up giving rank 1/2/3 to the same party.

    Will you go back to the old habits after this ends? Just out of pure curiosity. The lancer guy is hard on defence but you seem reasonable and level headed, it's not about taking the prize from you, you earned it fair and square. Anyway, congrats and Merry Christmas!

    As I said, if you want to to bring "cheating" into discussion you have to look at the entire playerbase, most of the people are "cheating", and i could bet that you're included in that category as well. These are consequences of gameforge closing an eye to toolbox, since 90% of the community is dependent of it, again as I mentioned about, while most of the people are using any kind of skill prediction, there's no point to be made about "cheating", which if you knew how those scripts work you'd realise it's not different from skill prediction to begin with, I'm not going to go into any further details, nobody's happy with the usage of "cheats", as long as there's competition for the leaderboard, people will use those "cheats" to either challenge or defend that spot.

    People complained about "cheating" outside the tournament, when there was a fair competition during the tournament, and nobody came close to our score then started accusing us of using cheats during the tournament, despite multiple people getting disqualified after the investigation. That aside neither one of us answered to this topic to brag, nor to prove anything to gameforge's staff which have already investigated the logs, was solely to provide evidence and to calm the rumours about us using a 3rd party software during the tournament. Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you as well.

    You are missing the point that according to the GF's rules your party should be banned regardless of the tournament. But its ok. Its funny.

    And you took that one from ?

    WDC Tournament rule:

    • If a tournament participant exploits hacks, bug abuses or similar and this is detected, this will lead to exclusion from the rankings and disqualification.

    The reason why the tournament requires the in-game meter data is to check if the rule from above has been broken, unless you can prove otherwise.

    I already made a point regarding the whole proxy breaking TOS above, you could read that reply instead

    Despite you making a valid point, you have to remember that most of the tera playerbase are already using NGSP or PSP, while these are attempting to emulate the skill usage as close to vanilla as possible, it's still breaking TOS and it's just a matter of which scripts are detectable and which aren't. In the end you can make a point that 90% of the tera playerbase are cheating, just because you think some are more ethical than others, that's purely subjective on your part and it's objectively cheating. In the end an easy solution would be to just require the official meter for leaderboard runs to be counted, but hey, all you think about is "ban cuz they cheat harder than everyone else".

    if u want share some screenshots, then show valks skillbreakdown lol.

    ok mr

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    You're missing ur own point "As for the rules about cheating but it seems that they let a lancer without cooldown in Shield barrage in first place" when u solely target the tournament, I'm sure you use toolbox and skill prediction mods, which from a technical point doesn't make you any more "ethical", since you're using a 3rd party program to alter your gameplay. I'm sure you're not dumb enough to not realise that gameforge is closing an eye over this to not repeat EME's mistakes and completely kill the playerbase.

    I'm not even sure why you're so invested in debunking people, did you even take part in the tournament to begin with ? Or is it that triggering that you can't get past floor 3 and there are people achieving something. In the end, you should just keep your word and make that post your last one, all you do is bark on forums all day and accuse people of what they've never done, peace.

    I really can't tell the point of your post, first of all, 3 of your "points" you're trying to make are already addressed in the official BHS notice in the link you posted.

    Second of all, you're clueless about the class balance since you're comparing the skill prediction equivalents, you could've just looked at the korea leaderboards to compare the vanilla class balance. And no lancer isn't better than brawler in vanilla.

    The 3rd party programs point is being addressed in the official BHS notice, as well as by threea.

    Quote from BHS's korean notice: "This event consists of only the records of the dungeon for the tournament."

    As i mentioned above class balancing isn't going to be different, assuming everyone plays vanilla. There's no difference between Korea and other regions after the update before the event happens (which will come with both patch 111 and 112).

    The mention of " If you do not use an official meter, accurate data cannot be checked, so it will not be reflected in the ranking" is already a sign that they will monitor the submitted scores since it's a monetary event.

    The only relevant point that's not been addressed in the links you specified and didn't even bother reading is related to the gear, and even for that you could've waited a few more days until more details from GF or BHS, there's no reason to rush with speculations. An event on this scale takes more than 1 month to be organised, and i'm 99.9% sure any constructive advice you'd have will be ignored due to the time remaining until the event starts. Another point i can make is, it's resonance gear barely matters when it comes to difference between actual bis and a geared person, the gear is not as relevant as being able to consistently play the dungeon, since it takes more than 10 minutes to clear the higher levels, we also have 2 weeks to "learn" the dungeon, which is more than enough if you care about the event to begin with.

    Instead of coming with advices and pointing some things that have already been addressed, i'd recommend waiting for more information and the beta test on 6/12.