Posts by TruthSedge
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Hi, I do heavily imply things without naming them because I wish to stay within the rules so this topic won't just be locked and deleted because I make specific references or give names of such programs. I want to make the problem known, if possible and the best case scenario which is immensely unlikely, this problem in particular with the proxies to be forwarded.
Some kind of automation is putting it easy and about removing the ping tax server side it's a major boon to your gameplay some programs do even more but they are costly and this is where the exploit paradise begins.
How much of an upper hand you get with 0ms where everything fires instantly with the help of a script? Even in a lan network (and here I mean computers within walking distance) you will not have 0 ms, it's on average 5-10ms.
Tolerated or not such programs are still in violation of the 3rd party agreement, but this is not my point or what I want to attract atention to.
If tolerated programs exist Gameforge must make it a known utility for the players, all of them on the website and the client, if not it's prohibited to use regardless of the intention on which you use said programs.
Either make it available to everyone to use or forbid them, doing anything else would be a gross violation of the rules.
Yes with asterisk on it, and I am aware of the unethical fishing procedures displayed in partener streams, I guess that will be handled like the police does most things even if you have recorded proof it can't be used as evidence. So just deny any alleged wrongdoings because there is technically no legitimate proof to incriminate you unless you are caught in the act by the police itself.
For anyone else reading.
It's not my concern how my class does or how I perform don't make this a witch hunt or an impulsion/frustration post, I can't say it better:
Quote from Denommenator:
Dear all TERA Players,
We have recently issued some standard takedown requests to platforms around the internet where we found communities actively working in violation of our Terms of Service. En Masse Entertainment has maintained a firm stance against 3rd Party programs or mods that violate our Terms of Service.
We understand your frustration and regret that this may have disrupted gameplay for some players. We took this action in an effort to protect the experience for those who play the game fairly and engage in the community positively.
The current situation does not justify abusive or toxic behavior directed at our employees or other players. Threads that are not constructive or violate our code of conduct will be closed or deleted. Disciplinary action will be taken against those players that display this behavior.
We love you TERA players and we understand that you’re upset about this. We will investigate solutions that provide some of the benefits that these 3rd Party Services offered in a form that doesn't violate our terms of service. Please be patient with us while we see what we can come up with
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Though some paid 3rd party applications are pretty crazy haha
It took me 3 minutes, a presentation video, a contact person and now I understand this far too well, still under no circumstance I will use such programs, or it is reasonable to defend such behaviour and just turn a blind eye, the game is not supposed to play itself for you.
Killing the game no, perhaps not, but what killed PvP? Was it skillful players or proxies? Why was it so frowned upon, PvP is insanely more competitive than PvE, should it return in the current state to run it into the ground from day 1?
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It's not frustration that made me write the post, I'm a casual player I won't even wave my handkerchief at Bahaar. The game is based on grinding, faster times in dungeons due to 3rd party programs executing skills in a perfect order at the perfect time with 0ms, really takes the edge on fairness, and by searching for that dps thing I came across a whole nother world of scrips and cheats.
It's a lot to read in the main post but please understand that I would love for a dps meter to be implemented and other programs that are helpful and bring a lot to the game, but even so, with the current rules they are 3rd party and offer an edge to the player.
What I try to point out is a desire for a more strict regulation and protection against malicious scripts, as for developers I am not trying to steal your thunder, my intention is to help I am perfectly aware it means nothing, I would love to see a helpful 3rd party program integrated and recognized by Gameforge, and as a player you won't learn about it the hard way.
You have to know that lots of players are really competitive in terms of DPS without using anything.
If you never know how good or bad you do, believe me you are perfect in a perfect world thinking you do absolutely ok.
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Since most of these programs are open source, code can be very fast written to shut down all malicious intent and use but it seems to be heavily lacking and very little is being done to prevent such exploits.
Taken from the main post.
The company must care because if not it's just backhanding itself, also to have the knowledge to report someone due to an exploit you must have first hand experience to know of the problem (like in my case, I saw something fishy with the dps, I went and looked for the cause) , it's not exactly a godly feat to design and implement anti-script measures with the application and the source code being open source.
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Modules should be prohibited and anything that gives advantage over another number of players, like I said the game plays itself for you, a more docile example being yours Zerped with the anti-afk one. In all honesty, a player that already has these installed, do you think it will be the end of it? Nothing more will be installed in the future?
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There is no need Zunako to take this personally and get offended, you misunderstood my point.
I think we can both agree that if a foreign application/3rd party program is tolerated and known about the company itself Gameforge in this instance, should make it an official release or widely and publicly make the release available to each and all players therefore giving it legitimacy to be used as a standalone program or addon for Tera. Not doing so is inherently placing it as a malicious/infectious program therefore any and all use should be prohibited.
An official statement from Gameforge is mandatory to whitelist/blacklist or integrating supported applications for the use of all players not just selective groups.
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Hello, as the title says I have several questions regarding the 3rd party apllications and how or why some are accepted/tolerated despite the fact that they are unofficial releases by Gameforge.
First of all Tera NA had a similar problem with these types of programs (to respect the forum rules I will avoid at any cost calling them what they are, or specifically name or link forum users to such programs, as guide for this endeavor I took example from the thread that SpaceCats posted a while ago in the Tera NA forum, rules that is, so we can have a civil discussion about this topic and be within the rules enforced here).
So let's begin, below you will find two links from the Tera NA forum that I suggest you read:
Denomenator - Recent DMCA Takedowns of Third-Party Programs
KitTeaCup - Recent DMCA Takedowns of Third-Party Programs - Discussion [Updated: November 8th]
Going back to programs that are 'tolerated', from my own experience I would have never known these existed if in certain dungeons I wouldn't been bashed for my damage per second, or being called a below average gunner and so on with clear proof of my 'wrong doing'. What followed is safe to say that I did a bit of research and what I found amazed me, I ended up using (yes I openly admit to using such a program) a program to monitor my party's dps me included I also found streams where such programs are displayed so at least for me now despite being a 3rd party application it's safe to use because no measure was taken by Gameforge in this regard. Reasons may differ for this program but the main one would be to improve class rotation, which on paper seems really good, also it provided statistics so class balance can be improved at least in PvE, an aid for new and veteran players to have. Very useful kit, until as stated above developers of such programs take it not a step further but a mile further.
Various programs that heavily impact the game and the way it's supposed to be played, programs that automate skill use and break the in-game economy with exploits, fishing was heavily abused for a while, seemingly such actions are becoming more and more tolerated.
In the Tera NA thread the vast majority of players complained when these 'benefits' were removed from them, so to draw a conclusion the vast majority of players don't actually play the game as it's supposed to. Various complains about ping being too high, and the only problem to solve this is with a 3rd party application, which lead to some way more severe exploits being developed and used than just improving latency. A definitive answer was given by the players in the sort of Take my proxies and I'll leave!
Such programs only hinder development of the game the most notable being:
-players abusing these programs for profit inside and outside the game;
-it almost completely removes the playing part of the game since a program does this for you automatically;
-new players are also drawn to this like moth to the flame some succumb to using others just quit;
-most players end up leaving new and old because God forbid they ended all the content way before it was intended to with the massive speed up's from these programs;
-quality of life changes at this point are not even worth mentioning because what is currently understood from QoL changes - game plays itself for me.
Now after I hopefully made my point I await an aswer from both players and staff members alike as to where this 3rd party programming is taking this game, what meassures are being enforced to permanently stop malicious programs and exploits, tolerated -allegedly- programs are being integrated since some are useful. Since most of these programs are open source, code can be very fast written to shut down all malicious intent and use but it seems to be heavily lacking and very little is being done to prevent such exploits.
Every program that injects Tera or hinders/changes it's normal and intended way of running is a 3rd party program and such it should be forbidden to use, if this comes into agreement I happily accept my punishment for using a 3rd party program to monitor my damage.
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Very useful thank you! I thought it was normal since lower dungeons are now made for a party of 3.
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Trappiez Haters are your motivators!
Just keep the streams coming one after another and when you are done, do another one and another one and another one [...] and another one.
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116 pages on the Beginner Guide and there are plenty more pages to add in the future, that should be heavily addressed, it's a very extensive piece of information, about 5 pages at most (introduction and ending included) with a lot of images should be enough and for further more detailed information they can check on the actual extensive guide; more in the terms of a power point presentation, the guide to me feels like a user manual for some household appliance that I end up never reading.
On Tera Na they have this partner program for Twitch streamers, maybe check if something similar may be possible here for you, if you already have achieved this then congrats!
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Imagine working at GF, you and your team developed a brand new site.
GF Team: It's done we hope you like it guys!
Everyone: IT'S SH*T, THANKS!
Maybe the new site may allow for more elaborate things in the future and better spread of information.
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Well nice new client but I cannot log in. I changed my password and I still have the same problem.
Invalid account data.
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It was never a problem of cancelling a skill (by the players fault), but a skill being cancelled or put on colldown before it was completed by other crowd control spells.
Gunner had a lot of problems but they are slowly being fixed, if the cast for Bombardament was started and the player got hit by the slightest crowd control, not knocked down or stunned but some sort of attack that will slightly disrupt the animation, skill was canceled and put on cooldown and it's lengthy, this was fixed in a previous patch.
In the same way to lose stacks that have a set timer on them like a consumable should not run out early, imagine if you had to reuse comsumables each and every time you get hit by a mechanic or empowered attack.
About dodging, look back on Balder's Vengeance so much complain about it that for a long time now you can cancel it with a stun, command recall now nerfed.
The main issue is that PvP changes (and now PvP is dead and gone god bless) trashed some classes in the PvE where changes especially nerfs were not at all needed.
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Teixas thank you again for the advice, in the future I hope to see the same change Bombardament did, when it used to cancel on mid cast and aplly cooldown without the skill hitting anything.
In response to the other two friends, how about you dodge this topic? Thank you!
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Since this thread is opened I won't open another, since my lack of knowledge for me at least now it's a bug.
Gunner has the following stacking talents : force/extra force for burst fire. Is it intended for some crowd control spells to fully reset any number of stacks to 0?
I tested this today in Gossamer Vault, I had 20 seconds left on 24 stacks and I intentionally let the Helgrammite hit me with the inner/outer circle, I did not test on inner circle, but outer circle fully resets stacks on succesful hit.
Stacks only reset on this boss at the inner/outer circle, regular pushback when hit does not reset the stacks (glowing tail for example), this happens in multiple dungeons some boss skills fully reset the stacks if the mechanic is not avoided.
Is this intended to be this way? The way I see it for the entire duration of the stacks I should not lose them regardless of what happens (death being the only exception).
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I failed 5 times before the event and I had 90%, my weapon went in the first try after. Jewelry on the other hand, I think i even failed like 80+ chance.
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Thank you!
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Hello, while using an accesory morpher does the item lose exp(switching from power to crit) ? It says on the description etching remains but I am not sure about the exp and I don't want to lose all.
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I used Google Translate, about the solo instances who even cares, it would've been nice to have double drop (Global), but still you can make the most of this event by farming 5 man dungeons with your friends.
I'm sure google translated it very wrong, for your enjoyment at least to have a laugh:
Bonjour, comme chaque jour, je viens vous casser les pieds. Fr
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Cocomin will develop a new skill called depression when you summon him among other pets.
