Everything that is Outdated

  • This is to bring attention to just how much at this point in the game we're outdated on so many items or shops, and how they should be (in my opinion) updated. Changed loot will be bolded, whether new items entirely or just the amount. To say this patch that these are 'updated' like you do with Banyaka's Treasure box is absolute bullocks unless you have BlueHole in your ear threatening to revoke your license for publishing the game if you update the loot when you know you have had multiple people message you complaining about it in Support Tickets, and making multiple posts and threads here in the forum.


    • Banyaka's Treasure -- Current Loot includes;
      • Mahtnan Ash x10
      • Superior Noctenium Reinfer x1
      • Elleon's Mark of Valor x5
      • Mahtnan Jewel x2
      • Mahtnan Soul Greedhead's Option Change Scroll Token x1
      • Goldfinger Token x2

      Updated Loot should be;

      • Luminous Frost Flower Pollen x4
      • Vitality Fragment x2
      • Elleon's Mark of Valor x10
      • Superior Noctenium Refiner x2
      • Ruby x10
      • Eternal Transformation Vellum x1

      Reason for change -- This is set to help people upgrade Mahtnan gear. That gear is far behind Frost Flower. To give them to TERA Club members is a slap in the face. You upgraded the drops from the actual Chest in Ghillieglade, so the question remains why you tell us that the content isn't outdated, when it literally is. We're not mindless zombies or idiots. We know when we're getting screwed over by your inane decisions. The increase to Superior Noctenium Refiner is simple. 1 isn't nearly enough, especially when we sit here given (actively as of this post) 3 different type of Noctenium Infusions, rather than changing them all to be the normal Infusions. You cannot use a combination of the three different ones to make Nocteniums. I would almost just crap Noctenium entirely from the drop rate and say we are owed Strong Braveries back, because god forbid a 2% difference in Skill Damage is "broken" but we can have items way more powerful than that. Make it make sense, guys. The Noctenium Refiners can be found in the Vanguard Merchant for 300 Credits, so by all means they're not actually fully necessary in the box. The Rubies is to give a small reward for being a Club Member. You never know when you might need the extra 1,000 gold. Plus after all the useless crap you give us like the Ash and Jewels, etc. and we can only sell them for 10 Bronze (10 Silver on Ash), you owe us big time.


    • Dragonwing Scale shop - Dragon Mount -- Current Options;
      • Dragon Scroll - 10 scales
      • Health Potion - 10 scales
      • EP Reset Potion - 30 scales
      • Bravery Potion - 15 scales
    • Updated shop content prices should be as follows;
      • Dragon Scroll - 5 scales
      • Health Potion - 5 scales
      • EP Reset Potion - 10 Scales
      • Bravery Potion - 5 scales

      Reason for changes -- The scale shop has been the same for ages, and the fact we don't get double vanguards as a permanent thing (which should be a thing for this patch, at least) is stale to say the least, and that's an understatement. The chances of getting a dragon skill (either Flying Skill: Red Dragon or Flying Skill: Steel Dragon) instead of Piece of Dragon Scroll is so abysmal that in my entire time of playing (several years) and thousands of scales put into the shop, not once have I received them instead of Piece of Dragon Scroll, nor do I know of anyone personally who has gotten it from the exchange either, so the high price of 10 scales is ridiculous, especially when you need 40 Pieces of Dragon Scrolls just to get the Steel Dragon (never let you choose between Red or Steel, which I think was always a stupid thing. If you put the grind into it, you should be able to choose between the two, especially if you already have one), which is a heavy investment that doesn't really pay off in the end. The rest are simple; For one, I don't know anyone who's constantly resetting their EP or find a need to reset them constantly each patch, so why are the reset potions so high, especially when you get given (if I recall) almost 10 from leveling up a character? The need for them is so low, why have it at a high price? For two, you can buy and craft Braveries, and for the Potions, you can easily craft those as well. No need to have them at 10 each.
      IF for any reason the prices should stay the same, Piece of Dragon should be transformed into it's own shop and then let people pick from a variety of dragons, not just Steel Dragon.


    • Goldfinger Token Shop -- Current Items and Prices;
      • Textile Refinement (Kashmir Wool) - 20 Tokens
      • Seam Ripper - 10 Tokens
      • Exodor Laundry Basket - 80 Tokens
      • Laundry Basket - 50 Tokens
      • Spinning Wheel - 20 Tokens
    • Updated Content should be as follows;
      • Textile Refinement (Kashmir Woolf) - 30 Tokens
      • Seam Ripper - 5 Tokens
      • Exodor Laundry Basket - 50 Tokens
      • Laundry Basket - 30 Tokens
      • Spinning Wheel - 30 Tokens
      • Darkyarn - 125 Tokens

      Reason for Changes -- I suggested increasing the Refinement tool and Spinning Wheel by 10 simply because with this suggested table, Darkyarn would be available from the shop, rather than having to be just a Cash shop item in the Tikat Shop. This is also why Darkyarn is higher than anything in the shop. There's no real way to grind Goldfinger Tokens effectively, so this helps balance the grind with the rewards for doing so with these two. I reduced the Seam Ripper due to the Exodor and the normal Laundry Baskets being reduced, simply because of the amount of underwear it would take to form an Exodor Innerwear, and even then, the Laundry Basket is heavily outdated with low-end innerwear, and Exodor Laundry Basket more-so, and it's 30 Tokens higher in the current shop than the Laundry Basket is. When it's possibly dropping things like the Elegant series Linen, the Noble Linen Underwear series, and the Quality Active Underwear series, which are outdated by miles, there's no sense in having the Exodor Laundry Basket be as expensive as it is. Same applies to the Laundry Basket, a ton of out-dated innerwear that has no business being worth 50 Tokens. As mentioned previously, I added Darkyarn as an item in the shop because the Textile Refinement and Spinning Wheel items require it, and it makes no sense to block those items out from people who don't want to pay cash for the Darkyarn, which is ridiculously priced in the Tikat Shop at 7,500 Tikats. (More on Tikat's Shop later.)


    • Comet Shop (weekend event) -- Current Items;
      • [Event[ Open Secret - 8 Comets
      • [Event] Dark Secret - 15 Comets
      • Inventory Expansion - 28 Comets
      • Megaphone - 1 Comet
      • [Event] Star Trace - 2 Comets
    • Updated Content should be as follows;
      • [Event] Open Secret - 3 Comets
      • [Event] Dark Secret - 10 Comets
      • Inventory Expansion - 20 Comets
      • Megaphone - 1 Comet
      • [Event] Star Trace - 1 Comet

      Reason for changes -- From what I am aware, the Comet Shop hasn't been updated since release. With Open Secret and Dark Secret still providing Mahtnan-patch content, their prices should be lowered, seeing as we're apparently not going to see a disappearance of Mahtnan materials for a while, according to you guys. Inventory Expansion is reduced because the amount of Tokens you get in a day aren't worth it. Star Trace was similarly reduced because of Mahtnan gear items. Even with the gear replaced, these prices are reasonable, given that you don't load up the Secrets with absolute junk, wasting people's time.


    • As far the Event Goes, you get the following from each Astral Gift;
      • 1 Small Comet token
      • 1 comet, 40 Fashion Coupons
      • 1 comet, 40 Fashion Coupons
      • 1 comet, 10 Mahtnan Ash
      • 1 comet, 25 Mahtnan Ash
      • 1 comet, 4-day dragon
    • If you update the gifts, they should be;
      • 1 Small Comet Token
      • 1 Small Comet Token + 40 Fashion Coupons
      • 1 Small Comet Token + 40 Fashion Coupons + 3 Frost Flower Pollen
      • 1 Small Comet Token + 5 Frost Flower Pollen + 2 Vitality Fragments
      • 1 Small Comet Token + 8 Frost Flower Pollen + 6 Vitality Fragments
      • 1 Small Comet Token + 4-day Dragon + 1 Precious Gem Box
      Reason for Changes -- Same as above. They're linked, so the reason is as well.


    • Elleon's Mark of Valor/Steadfast Token Shop -- Current Items and Prices;
      • Superior Noctenium Elixir - 5 Marks
      • Valkyon Health Potion - 10 Marks
      • [Event] Fish Soup - 4 Marks
      • [Event] Fish Fritters - 4 Marks
      • Precious Sky Lotus - 5 Marks
      • Complete Crystalbind - 10 Marks
      • [Event] Fish Steak - 4 Marks
      • [Event[ Spicy Fish Buffet - 10 Marks
      • [Event[ Salty Fish Buffet - 10 Marks
      • [Event] Lein's Dark Root Beet - 3 Marks
      • Shape Change: Big head (7 Days) - 10 Marks
      • Shape Changer: Head Restore - 1 Mark
      • [Event] Hot Fish Buffet - 10 Marks
    • Updated list and prices should be;
      • Superior Noctenium Elixir - 5 Marks
      • Valkyon Health Potion - 5 Marks
      • Fish Soup (non-event version) - 4 Marks
      • Fish Fritters (non-event version) - 4 Marks
      • Precious Sky Lotus - 5 Marks
      • Frost Flower Pollen - 10 Marks
      • Vitality Fragment - 15 Marks
      • Stamina Seal - 40 Marks
      • Fish Steak (non-event version) - 4 Marks
      • Spicy Fish Buffet (non-event version) - 10 Marks
      • Salty Fish Buffet (non-event version) - 10 Marks
      • Hot Fish Buffet (non-event version) - 10 Marks
      • Shape Change: Big Head (7 Days) - 10 Marks
      • Shape Change: Big Head - 20 Marks
      • Shape Changer: Grow (1 Day) - 5 Marks
      • Shape Changer: Height (Permanent) - 20 Marks
      • Shape Changer: Shrink (1 Day) - 5 Marks

      Reason for Changes -- Adding cosmetic items that haven't been around for a while would encourage people to 'have fun' again, growing 3 times in size or shrinking 3 times in size, etc. Obviously since we have Sky Lotus in there, might as well add Vitality Fragments and the Pollen, as well as the Stamina Seal in there. I only added Stamina (and at a higher price) because you can convert to the next item, Victory Glyph, with enough. Changed all the food items to non-event items to make it easier on staff to not have to re-add or reset the timer for the items in-game, plus not take up extra inventory or bank space. Finally, reduced the Health Potion just because it's...not necessary to have it at 10? The trade-able ones can be crafted. 10 Marks isn't worth it.


    • Tikat Shop -- Now this shop is pretty vast, so I'm just going to mention the ones I think need changing, because there's so many items in there.
      • Solver 50% (15 days) (5,000 Tikats) and Federation Hero 50% (15 Days) (4,500 Tikats) -- These should be removed entirely. There are frequent-enough level-up events now, plus Club. These are unnecessary to have in the shop. These should be replaced with a Reputation Boost, let's say at 3,000 Tikats for the 1-Day equivalent.
      • Veteran Apothecary Dye (2,500 Tikats) -- This should be reduced further, as you can craft these. 1,500 Tikats, at most.
      • Aged Elinu's Tear (8,000 Tikat) -- While these are rarer than the other Elinu Tears and the Calaberry Juices, 8,000 isn't worth it when you can stockpile on the others. Suggested price -- 4,000 Tikats.
      • In response to Aged Elinu's Tear above, Elinu's Tear should be removed.
      • Adventure Coin (200) (900 Tikats), Adventure Coin (400) (1,750 Tikats), and Adventure Coin (800) (3,450 Tikats) -- While I think these are pretty decent, I think we could go slightly lower without affecting the flow of the market. Plus, these aren't tradeable, so it won't even necessarily affect the market all that much. We could go to 600 Tikats for the 200 ACs, 1,100 Tikats for the 400 AC, and 2,100 Tikats for the 800 Coins.
      • Shape Changer: Height (3,500), Shape Changer: Thighs (3,500), and Shape Changer: Chest (3,500) -- These all should be removed, and placed into the Fashion Coupon shop, as well as the Elleon's Mark of Valor shop as mentioned above.
      • All dyes that are not the Veteran Apothecary Dye should be reduced to 1,000 Tikats, at most.
      • Crystalbinds (1 Hour and Complete) should be removed entirely.
      • All Mahtnan related boxes should be replaced with Frost Flower equivalents. If there are none, they should be removed from the shop to prevent being predatory.
      • Add Popori Bait to the shop, at a price of 1,600 Tikats.
      • The rest I don't have any sort of opinion on, so I'll leave those alone.


    In regards to Dungeon Loot, it's awful for people to level up. I understand if the idea from BHS was to make enchantment material "more valuable" but in reality they've made it scarce, and even with the Double-Vanguard event, it wasn't worth putting effort into grinding just for double Main-materials (as the extra loot they've added on, such as Vitality Fragments, second Frost Flower and Second Stamina Seals and Victory Glyphs, etc aren't doubled when it's active cause they're considered 'extra loot') because it sucks. When we had Dark Shard issues, we had a "guaranteed loot drop" and that's what we need for Vitality Fragments and the Glyphs and Seals. They are the cause of most of the bottleneck of enchanting, meanwhile everyone should basically have Precious Sky Lotus up the wazoo.


    The fact that I even bother to make a post like this (and like this one here that I was told the Community Managers would comment on by Support and they didn't) should show how much you guys are ignoring the community and showing us that you just aren't giving a flying fahootie in the blowfish about the state of the game, or the community. This isn't even on top of the fact you've ignored SEA's growing issues for months now. If you were looking to find a way to save money by killing a region, then congrats, you guys are smart. Otherwise, if this wasn't your intention, then good lord who do we have to talk to above the Community Managers (like the Product Manager) in order to help them understand that the lack of action on their part is literally killing a whole region??


    And no, we will not stop bringing up Banyaka's Box because it's paid for, and we're given the middle finger. Until it stops, it will continue to be mentioned.


    I didn't think GameForge would get this bad, and I've been positive since Day 1 despite what everyone else has said. You literally don't try to promote the game or bring back players, and you have games like Elden Ring literally dragging even more players away while they do end-game AFKing in Highwatch. (I don't even mention Velika anymore because Channel 1 has even lost a majority of it's AFKers, and that's a bad sign.


    P.S: I posted this in English/Europe instead of America cause it looks like NA's forum is getting neglected the few times staff are posting on the forums now, so here I am.


    Sheesh.

  • LevinSnakesRise What can i say great job.

    One of the most impressive posts i have ever seen.

    Yes like you i never expected Gameforge to drop so low... .........

    Banyaka boxes are not updated on purpose but i admire your attitude that you keep trying and ofcourse for the time you spend to write this post.

    <3KILLIAN RIP. 2018<3

  • Interestingly, they updated one of the Astral Gifts with Precious Sky Lotus, but others still give Mahtnan Ashes, which leaves us with 80 useless Mahtnan Ashes/week-end