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  • Bluehole is at least trying to revitalize tera but they cant do that if gameforge is mistreating players by keeping them from getting content of upcoming patches greed is the ruin of all game companies just look what happened to EN MASSE

    This shows you didn't watch any interviews to "What happened to En Masse"


    It wasn't greed, it was because they weren't keeping good financial track of how much Free EMP they were giving out with the purchases of regular EMP. This constant flow of Free EMP and lack of book-keeping finally took it's toll on EME, plus the pandemic. It had nothing to do with greed.

  • This shows you didn't watch any interviews to "What happened to En Masse"


    It wasn't greed, it was because they weren't keeping good financial track of how much Free EMP they were giving out with the purchases of regular EMP. This constant flow of Free EMP and lack of book-keeping finally took it's toll on EME, plus the pandemic. It had nothing to do with greed.

    and another factor is that they also never played the game. All they did was level up to 65 which is basically is just the start of the game. Imagine being a publisher and having little to zero idea about the game.

  • for your info i've played the game since the reaper release how long have you played?


    and in fact i'm 70 not 65 and almost have full soul gear


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    and another thing i'm not the only one that knows how eme treated their players and it was way before covid and gameforge has been mistreating their players since aion so you can make all of the excuses you want for them it still doesn't give them every right to screw their players so don't hate on me for just telling how they are. And attacking people coming on the forums having a opinion just shows the kind of people you are


    i suggest you find out everything about eme before you go defending them because that sure isn't want everyone was saying about them and also what everyone is saying about your beloved gameforge


    I've seen plenty of your kind before your ready to defend a company but don't have all the facts about it but want to snub and be a jackass to those that have a opinion about them i like i said have played since the reaper release almost 9 years i was in tera when tera was still at level cap 60 so don't talk crap to me about what you think you know about eme and gameforge i played aion as well and they didn't treat their gamers well back then look at what they did to soulworker players how all the hard work and effort put into the game only to have all of that deleted and didn't even give players a option to migrate and save their data so like i said before you go trying to snub someone for their opinion on a company your trying to defend and don't know everything find out from others that have played the damn game

  • I agree with MICHAEL64 about Enmasse being greedy and crappy, even though he kind of rambles on there.


    I played Tera from the Manaya's Core patch to the level 65 patch, and then permanently quit.
    During my time playing, I saw EnMasse's greed heighten more and more in the form of them putting more and more importance on pay to win aspects.

    It used to be about skill. Manaya's Core hard mode rewarded crafting ingredients to get the best gear in the game, and that dungeon was insanely difficult. This resulted in the players with the most skill becoming the most powerful (except those who paid other players for the crafting items/dungeon carries).

    Then it changed over time to what Tera has been ever since. Pay to win. The biggest wallet wins.


    It's the exact same as many other Korean MMORPGs such as what I experienced with Ragnarok Online and their cash shop.


    It's never going to change with companies like Warp Portal, EME and Gameforge. They're all crooked. They don't care if their players have a good gaming experience. It's obvious that they're only in it to milk players of their money, while doing as little work as possible, but many people continue to ignore that, letting it slide because "the combat is fun".


    Well personally, I'd rather play a game with even better combat that isn't a MMORPG, such as a shooter, because that requires even more skill without the pay to win.
    If I want an RPG experience, I'll play Dungeons and Dragons with friends or Neverwinter Nights.

    Korean MMORPGs are not fun for western gamers, aside from the few weebs who cling on to this trash, excusing all the faults because "OMG SO CUTE".

  • It's obvious that they're only in it to milk players of their money, while doing as little work as possible, but many people continue to ignore that, letting it slide because "the combat is fun".

    As obvious as this may be, there aren't many alternatives out there, so what can those many people do about it?


    I see three possible lines to act about it, let me explain why neither of them solves the problem and see if you can come in with any better ideas:


    1. Quit the game/Stop cashing in

    IS USELESS BECAUSE: There aren't any guarantees that they'll realize anything.

    Moreover, they may just close and go milk next so an inactivity protest doesn't help to improve the game in the slightest here. If anything the player can try to find fun elsewhere and make a better use of time.

    At the point someone decides to go for this one I'd advise to do it asap as not to waste any more patience or other potentially better experiences. If it reaches the point the changes are so bad that it's no fun whatsoever any longer, then that's probably a good moment to enjoy something else.


    2. Ignoring it/Letting it slide

    IS USELESS BECAUSE: It doesn't really change anything, it just lets the player have limited amounts of fun before the farm closes its doors.

    Allows people to continue playing what remains out of the game. People are getting tired of losing the time they may enjoy playing making suggestions for nothing.

    For people that choose this option, even while they may not like that the game is limited, it still offers them a better experience than what others can contest for. Just don't expect things to get better or white knight though, if they choose this one they're accounting for more of the same or worse.


    3. Actively contacting the developers, the community and the publishers to seek solutions


    IS USELESS BECAUSE: It most probably leads to being completely ignored in the event of surviving a ban.

    If enough people "cry" about one particular thing you may get some cashing in related or small fry solution. This one may look the closest to the solution but actually qualifies as an unpaid job at this point, or rather the paid job that some people are skipping doing properly.

    Out of the three this is the most time consuming and ungrateful one. People going for this may even end up playing less of anything and their fun being ruined for no profit in return, it'd only be worth their while if anything is achieved. Guess this one is for people that like risks.

  • Chinese server just got patch 108 and they got awake tokens as a reward (compensation) for upgrading soul gear same as it was on kr.

    WTF??? Why only eu is fkd up

  • As many people should know by now this patch was released on the Japanese and the Chinese Version of Tera in the past one or two days.


    Below you can see the Japanese patchnotes which obviously include that Awake tokens as an reward.



    Source Japanese Tera Website Patchnotes -> https://translate.google.de/tr…a.pmang.jp%2F&prev=search


    And this Screenshot here (sadly I have no way to check the chinese website itself) shows one known chinese streamer answering the specific question whether they got Awake Tokens from their event or not.



    So - all other existing regions which include Korea & Japan & China got the same rewards from the same copy-pasta'd event.

    Literally all other regions did get the Awake tokens as an reward - who the hell at Gameforge had the stupid idea to remove those rewards? And how the hell can you pretend to justify it - ain't happening because none of you guys even have the guts to come here and explain your reasoning.


    Your company (or at least the higher-ups who decide shit like that) is a freaking joke - nothing else to say anymore.

    Done.

  • @tobtheking2 haha that was the exact point of asking him, I couldn't find CN patch notes :>




    Yeah, Gameforge, don't even try to say now that it's region specific/exclusive/etc, it's not even funny anymore

    Or show us fkn proves that bluehole itself did this shit with tokens for eu region so we will stop blaming you. But I don't think it's true tho

  • It would only make sense to not award the tokens if our publisher has edited the amount of rewards we get for clearing content and other sources for the new gear entirely, including gear drop and upgrade percentage.

    The patch notes are yet to be released so we won't know for sure until then.

    If we do get the copy/paste but with less rewards it's just intentional scarcity to make things even harder and promote the item shop instead of gameplay, just like the 3h respawn for bosses and 1 player gets the loot.

    Judging after the fact that they 'forgot' the RK-9 Pet ... looks kinda grim.

    From the Chinese patch notes the upgrade chance from +11 to +12 is 2.5%.

    COOL!

  • It would only make sense to not award the tokens if our publisher has edited the amount of rewards we get for clearing content and other sources for the new gear entirely, including gear drop and upgrade percentage.

    The patch notes are yet to be released so we won't know for sure until then.

    that would be a good move from gameforge , to give us like double upgrade chance.

    thats a dream that never comes true

  • that would be a good move from gameforge , to give us like double upgrade chance.

    thats a dream that never comes true

    Yep, thats never gonna happen. They usually just copy/paste stuff from Ktera and delete the good stuff. Never seen it the other way. lol

  • that would be a good move from gameforge , to give us like double upgrade chance.

    thats a dream that never comes true

    They didn't even bother to double upgrade chance right now for soul gear. Even with new gear coming soon it's still 20% lol
    So for new gear after few months I bet it will be 10%

  • Like Erentari already said, the better question is - why the hell is it still only +20% literally 2 days before the new gear comes out XD
    If you really wanna make the transition much easier into the new patch than at least freaking make it Double Chance like the older events, lol.

    Done.