2 biggest problems with Kaia's Soul Gear

    Dear Gameforge.


    Want to tell you, that we, players, have 2 problems with enchanting of new gear compare to the old one:


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    1) - Lumikan's Horn Piece can be obtained only in hard mode dungeon - Catalepticon (Hard)


    2) -It is not tradable


    Here we have a huge step back, compare to the old Kaia's Gear.


    To make your gear from +7 to +9 you MUST get in hard mode dungeon. (Catalepticon (Hard))

    But lots of people can not do that (or dont want to).

    Also they can not buy it from other players (not tradable)


    That means they will newer get +7-9 gear (if do not pay you for Lumikan's Treasure)


    So i have a question - how you gonna change this situation or it is time to leave the game, because new gear is not for everyone?


    I hope you remember, that old Kaia's enchanting materials :

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    (+10-15) was and is tradable and also had a chance to drop even from ordinary mobs on Exodor.


    What is happening with game?

    Should we all leave to make you or our Korean's brothers understand that it is not acceptable?


    Do something with it.


    Thank you.

    Quote from Buschfunker

    Best gear only for best players. If they cant clear it, they dont deserve best gear and esspeccially they dont need best gear.

    but what about previous Kaia's gear? it was for all - now just for best of the best and rich one?)

    Your argument is bad...


    And ofc you (~20% of all players, who can\want play in hard dungeons) can play alone on the server when 80% of others (who can't\don't want to enter hard dungeons) will leave this game...hope you will enjoy it. All that month till Gameforge will close Tera EU )))


    Stay safe, skill players)))

    I'm sorry to disappoint you, but last patch was the only one in like 4+ years, where you could max out best gear without running the hardest dungeon at the time, so from this point, we are just running back to normal. There was always option for casual players in the mid gear, lets call it +6 now, and some extra bit for the top few, who want to play more competitive in hard dungeons.

    In the end, with the +6 you can clear all below 501 within 5 min and if you don't aim higher, where is the problem in this? That you can't flex in catnm with your +9 and taunt players who go there with old kaias?


    Also, you can get some horns from the box for elleon marks.

    It was nearly every patch where you was forced to clear hardest dungeon for best gear. What motivation do you have to run the hardest dungeon when you get the best gear from other stuff?

    Btw. Since Vm4 where my premade disbanded ive never cleared any hardmode dungeon, but I dont care the best gear.

    Indeed, as most people says here. BiS gear is usually for those who can clear the hardest dungeons (or as always for those who can p2w). If you have your weapon and armor +6 and want to get a better gear then try to learn how to clear the dungeon where the mats drops.


    Before this week we could say things were awful for casual players but GameForge changed few things on rewards from completing dungeons and it looks a little bit better. The "biggest problems" you address here are not actual problems, they have been a norm in most games for a long time.

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    My point is comprising with 2 gear systems before that one - you can get best gear without hard mode dungeon.


    Now you can it too - just pay)


    Also...you MUST run only 1 dungeon to upgrade your gear - this is an absurd for me.


    That looks soo bad that im not sure i will stay ingame if it will not change...and i think lots of casual players will think about it too, when get all gear +6 and will think what to do next.


    We will see...


    Btw all "Elite" players - you can skip this thread, it is not for you )))

    Just go and farm Catalepticon (Hard) for ever if it is good for you...

    Lats time when it required an actual skill, knowledge and determination to clear HM was when HO gear was present. At that time you EARNED IT. Now best gear is for PAYING players. None of the people, who got their BiS gear in the first hour after patch hit, cleared anything besides wallets, but I guess we consider them best now. Why people, who don't wan to run HM, but still participate in game can't get their times worth? Sometimes you get lucky and Serghetto spawns, so there's that. Why not implement some sort of system, where you can exchange bulk of weaker mats for a stronger one, like they did with feedstock and improved feedstock. Game is getting towards the point where you "best player" won't be able to show off your stuff ( that you eArNed) to anyone besides others who eArNed the same way.

    Quote from Sonata

    That looks soo bad that im not sure i will stay ingame if it will not change...and i think lots of casual players will think about it too, when get all gear +6 and will think what to do next.

    What do you think what to do next when you have +9?

    I mean you dont try hard mode now, so you dont try it even with +9. So or so your game stops at the same time if you dont try the hard mode. And again i am no elitist, i even cant clear the hardmode by myself. Games need competition and if you remove the competition to get best gear for best players even the best players will leave.

    Quote from Buschfunker

    Games need competition and if you remove the competition to get best gear for best players even the best players will leave.

    Your only competition to get best gear is your ability to either pay with real cash or ingame gold. I would agree with you, if game would have old system. can't clear a hard dungeon? You don't get rewarded with best gear, cuz you didn't earned it. now it's can't clear HM, buy gear and never show your face there ever again and you don't have to cuz you are already maxed out, now you can go to CAT and DA and kick people who try to grind their stuff for not being geared enough. So saying best gear only for best players is nonsense, best gear for paying players , now that is more like it.

    I can not agree with Sonata, your expectation is completely wrong. Besides that, it is possible to pay to get the gear which is in my opinion a bad system you get what you deserve.


    You want BiS gear...Well, run the instance.


    You are not motivated to run the Hardmode...Well, you do not deserve BiS gear.


    You cry cause it is not tradable...Sad story but people that buy resources because they are not able to run the instance to farm them do not deserve the gear.


    There is absolutely no point to give the BiS gear to players like you. You want to achieve the best gear but at the same time, you do not want to learn the content. That sound like those players that run low-level instances for years, buy all the gear from the broker and then go to max level instances cause of a quest. That is absolutely not what this game is about.

    The overall Issue is that CAT HM and other dungeons are not rewarding you get 3-5 Horn Pieces per run (avg over runs seems to be 4) + 1 group loot every run due to event.

    So this means you drop 8-10 as a whole group with avg 9 per run. So overall each player will get an avg of 1.8 horn pieces per run . This means a party has to run 9 Times CAT HM to generate 1 try for every one in the group with 5% base chance from +8 to +9 like what?!

    On the other Hand you can just yolo cash Lumikan Treasures and get the reward without spending too much gold (if you get Horn pieces from Lumikan Treasure you will get at least 5). The same holds for Soul Reroll Scrolls...


    Conclusion: BUFF dungeon reward or make all Uppgradematerials group Loot, since this patch is absolutely p2w!!


    Compared to the very past, the situation now is comparable with VM4 when there was no source for masterwork alkahest and GF introduced it as Vanguard Supplie (why is there no useful thing in Vanguard Credit Shop, else then Haste Coins?)

    Did George W. Buschfunker president of the United Servers of Tera just pull a 269 iq move stating that the best gear in the game is for the players that can clear the hardest content? With what their wallet? I'm in that same boat everything I have on me came in a box, I can hardly say I deserve any of it.

    Sonata for now the only source for you to get the Lumikan horn (excluding clearing cathm and lumi chest) is to buy Azart Force Trophy Chest, it has 1 horn piece but that is hardly worth compared to the lumi chest.

    I just want to put in your mind that +9 on new stuff is only the last thing to do but it depends on your own aim.


    If you want to be known as "the best" player, you must makes many things before thinking about +9 your gear


    - optimize your glyph

    - optimize your EP

    - optimize your lvl65+ skills

    - best etchings for your stuff

    - best companion (at least with 40 friendship)

    - 1.5 or 2.0 mount

    - best options for all your gear

    - best infusions

    - best blue cards choice and effect

    - learn your class well


    You can do almost everything up without running HM dugeons


    after that you can try to max out your gear to +9 but with all this and +6, you'll be one of the best for sure


    all players wants to max up their gear as soon as it's poped up but keep in mind that you have tons of things to do other than that


    I agree with you that farming +9 even farming wings is too much right now anyway.


    i also know that almost everything up is doable with a credit card but not all players have enough money to do that

    Edited once, last by Arckadia ().

    Who are you (or the people like you) to judge what i deserve and what i don't?


    It is something what i can call "player's segregations" - if you can not or dont want (i personally dont want btw) to run 1 (one !!!) dungeon - you will not get best gear.


    I can accept it, but only with 2 strong conditions:

    1 - if we have this enchanting materials in other HM dungeons and i can choose where to play (where i like most of all to play).

    2 - if no one can get it just to pay some real money.


    But present situation is UNEXCEPTABLE !


    And ruin the game.

    It force you to play 1 dungeon again and again- what is not funny at all for lots of people.

    And at last it force you to pay, because you cant play only 1 dungeon for so long...


    I saw math's something there - you need 3 run in HM just to click 1 time on +7 (10% success)

    only 1\10 that you will get +7 !!!

    you can click 20-30 or even more times and still stay with +6

    20 attempts = 60 HM runs = 18 000 adventure coins = 7 days aprox (tera club) and 15 days (without tera club)

    and that only for good chance to make +7 one piece of your gear. One of 4!!!

    I just dont want to count days and coins you need to get +8 or +9 for all your gear...looks like eternity)


    Conclusion: Current state of Tera - completely unplayable if you don't pay


    It is UNEXCEPTABLE ! I repeat it for you Gameforge!

    If you think to earn - you will do that at this moment - but you will lose in time, when many players just left game because of this situation. Think about it! Think about your income at last!


    Best wishes.




    It looks like some people forgot about HH times. If you wanted to have BiS gear and brooch (Behemot in Ambush patch or Oblit on Deathwrack patch). You needed to run that content almost every week. The same "dungeon/raid" again and again and again. Mats from them didnt droped on anyother dungeon.


    And that was even before HH times. This has been " a norm" in games with gear progression, its not exclusive from TERA.

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    Quote from Sweet.Shiro.Neko

    It looks like some people forgot about HH times. If you wanted to have BiS gear and brooch (Behemot in Ambush patch or Oblit on Deathwrack patch). You needed to run that content almost every week. The same "dungeon/raid" again and again and again. Mats from them didnt droped on anyother dungeon.


    And that was even before HH times. This has been " a norm" in games with gear progression, its not exclusive from TERA.

    NOBODY complains only about droprate. Droprate would be cancer, but "fine" if there wasnt the option to purchase all stuff in Terashop and by doing so replacing the actual content. This is the thing one has to argue about since we never had such trash in Terashop on Patchday and indirectly forcing players to pay for their Gear...