Tera Classic Server Poll and Discussion (Consolidated)

  • Its Gameforge a publisher that ruined AION and killing TERA with their politics im pretty sure they goin to bankrupt in future just like EN masse did. About classic i doubt its even possible and conjuct patch is the best.

    Dont worry about GF, they found enough lonely players


    Just look the other posts on this forum

    "Hey Atmorph can you please increase the elleon tokens a little bit? Thank you :love::love::*:*8o8o"

  • Long text full of bullshit + some fanboy fantasy world poll.


    A classic server doesn't make sense in the long run. It would be fun the first few days but than everyone would leave for the main game again because it gets updated. And splitting the playerbase is stupid too.


    They need to fix the game instead of creating a classic server that wouldn't even be a real classic server in the first place.

    I made an account on gameforge just now to respond to this terrible post.
    These are the same, enormously stupid arguments that modern Tera players have been using for years to dismiss the interest of Classic Tera servers. Likely out of unnecessary fear, believing their modern Tera server will be affected by a Classic Tera server.


    "Everyone would leave for the main game again," eh? Yeah everyone who LIKES modern Tera would continue playing it, but we're talking about a demographic of people who ARE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN MODERN TERA, yet who WOULD PLAY a classic version of Tera.

    Splitting the playerbase? Again, we're talking about a demographic of people who are NO LONGER INTERESTED IN MODERN TERA, yet who WOULD PLAY a classic version of Tera.

    Please get that through your skull.

    Yes, I'm one of the people who loved the VisionMaker1/VisionMaker2 era of Tera, who has been sitting silently on the sidelines for years, waiting for a classic version of Tera to emerge, and I know for a fact I'm not alone.

    There are many people like me who have not TOUCHED modern Tera in YEARS, who WOULD play a classic version if it were available.


    Did the popularity of Classic WoW not clue you in to any of this?

    It's no secret that many people consider Classic Tera a better game overall than what Tera is today, just like with Classic WoW.


    I will NEVER play modern Tera again in my life. Guaranteed. I will however play Classic Tera again in a heartbeat, whether it's subscription based, buy to play, or free to play, as long as there are not too many pay to win elements or too much loot box type bullshit.

    I don't even care if it's a server hosted in Europe while I'm Canadian, giving me a terrible ping. I'd be very happy just to be able to experience classic Tera again, the way I loved it so many years ago.

  • people still don't get it.

    There are two type of players who want classic:
    The nostalgic player, who want to relive the past of Tera and then realize the game is not what they remember it is.
    The PvP monkes like myself and a few others here, who want classic not to relive the past, but to play in a Tera patch before PvP was mercilessly murdered and turned into a joke by BHS.

    I think you're the one who doesn't "get it", brother from another mother.

    Those are just your opinions or assumptions of what classic fans are. Not straight facts which you need to "clarify".

    Fact is, many people want a Classic Tera server on PC. I can't speak for all these types of people, but I can speak for myself and my friends who loved Classic Tera.

    We want the game mechanics how we remember them being, how PvP used to be, how endgame PvE used to be, etc, etc. We liked it like that.


    Yes we want to play it for the nostalgia, but why do you say people will realize the game is not what they remember it is? That's like calling all Tera Classic fans mentally stupid.

    We want to be in that world as we remember it, and yes we do remember it correctly, bud. Give classic fans more credit.
    We want to be immersed again without the millions of pay to win elements that kept on piling up patch after patch. We want it without race or gender locked classes. We want it with all the good and the bad aspects Classic Tera had, even if it was technically not the best PvP patch or whatever. It was our world for better or for worse and we miss it.


    That argument you're making is just like the devs who were DEAD WRONG about Classic WoW when they said "You THINK you do, but you don't, hurr hurr". Yeah well guess what? Thousands, if not millions of people are still playing Classic WoW to this day.


    EDIT*
    One final thing people on these forums should take into account. Might seem super obvious, but not every Classic Tera fan who would play a Classic server is going to be posting here, or completing this survey as they have long given up hope for a Classic server ever emerging. 90% of them probably wouldn't even bother searching for one on their own.
    If however one showed up, advertising itself to them, or somehow heard through word of mouth and surprising them again, like an early Christmas present, you bet your ass there would be a gathering of Classic players.

    Keep that in mind, all you naysayers.

  • The time is different. You simply would not feel what you felt when the game was new.


    And stop claiming that PvP players want a classic server. Real PvP players don't want a classic server, we want that the fukcing PvP gets fixed.

    I for sure am not going to farm LoT for MWA and MC for VM1 gear. I would NOT level up my characters again, especially because it was painfully slow back then. I would NOT farm my glyphs in PvE again.

    Stupid PvE shit over and over and over again to upgrade each of my characters for PvP. Laughable.


    I havn't played on the first "classic" server and i wouldn't even play on next one.

  • Pvp is the only thing i do in this game and i want a classic server, cause they will never balance classes. So i would prefer a classic server before they buffed the shit out of the most classes to oneshot fiesta. The current pvp dmg is at least 50% to high in every aspect, CU, BG or duel.

  • I havn't played on the first "classic" server and i wouldn't even play on next one.

    Calm down dude and do not be so negative, since you never played it in the first place you do not have any idea the feeling of the old game and how different it was from the actual Tera.

    Infact who want the classic Tera aren't just nostalgics or elite pvpers, but also people who like the base core of the old game as a whole.


    A classic server won't affect you or the actual playerbase, never, old players or players who stop to play wont come back and play this Tera anyway, they will only back to play with the old rulesets.


    If not is just more players and money for GF not less since the new players who will back are players who already left Tera or tried the game and didn't like it.


    Setting a classic server is also a easy task for BH since they already did it about a year ago, they already have the client set and ready. just nedd some minor changes and won't take away people or resources from the current "development" of Tera. Hope this is more clear.

    Tera p2p 2012 founder player.

    :elin35:
    censorship!
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    Retired, waiting for #VM1 #Tera #Classic #Server.

  • Calm down dude and do not be so negative, since you never played it in the first place you do not have any idea the feeling of the old game and how different it was from the actual Tera.

    Says the one that played this game for a month and than left. Just to come back multiple times and play a few days to just leave the game again. You are a casual.

    I compared to you played from the beginning and never left till today.

  • Says the one that played this game for a month and than left. Just to come back multiple times and play a few days to just leave the game again. You are a casual.

    I compared to you played from the beginning and never left till today.

    I'm a founder player since the game was p2p and play for over a year straight. But not here at GF, at En Masse, then i switch here in 2013. Infact i have 2 accounts and both are founders.


    I leave the game in 2014-2015 after the f2p and the boring direction of the game. Never like new content, because they remove Nexus and all open world stuff, boosting grinding and farming in dungeons. Liked however the blast from the past downscaling feature.


    Tera was a good game because is was a open world mmorpg, now is just an instanced brawler.


    This is my case, i will never play actual Tera anymore, this is a fact, will back only for a classic server, but do not expect either other old players to play this iteration. We only back for a VM1 or max VM2 Tera because is the Tera we loved.

    Tera p2p 2012 founder player.

    :elin35:
    censorship!
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    Retired, waiting for #VM1 #Tera #Classic #Server.

  • Face it, Om3Ga. You do not represent or speak for Classic Tera fans. You're a modern Tera fan who did not enjoy Classic Tera by your own admission. So why are you even bothering with your irrelevant opinions on a Classic Server?

    Leave that to Classic Tera fans which is not you.

    The time is different. You simply would not feel what you felt when the game was new.

    Yeah we're all aware of how time works, bud. Doesn't mean we don't want the game back to, what is in our opinion, the superior state.

    You can speak for yourself all you want saying "I wouldn't play classic, I won't farm for VM1, I won't enjoy anything about it," but you don't speak for Classic fans with, or "Real PvP" Classic fans.

    Pvp is the only thing i do in this game and i want a classic server, cause they will never balance classes. So i would prefer a classic server before they buffed the shit out of the most classes to oneshot fiesta. The current pvp dmg is at least 50% to high in every aspect, CU, BG or duel.

    Agreed 100%


    The Modern Tera fans like Om3Ga need to shut their mouths already with all their negative naysaying. We Classic fans have heard enough of what you guys want for years. Yes I hope Modern Tera becomes "fixed" to your liking as well, but I still wouldn't play on that.
    Classic Tera fans want Classic Tera back. Simple as that. And there are many of us.

  • The real question is... Will GameForge make enought profits from a Classic server?


    This is a serious question because over the past years I have know several "pirate" servers who offer/ed what you would call Classic TERA. Max level 60 with open world pvp and pk of lowbies. Guess what? In these years they just keep shuting down because of they cant reach the donation cuota to keep their servers up. What do you expect a company like GF will do looking at that?

    :elin31:

  • The real question is... Will GameForge make enought profits from a Classic server?


    This is a serious question because over the past years I have know several "pirate" servers who offer/ed what you would call Classic TERA. Max level 60 with open world pvp and pk of lowbies. Guess what? In these years they just keep shuting down because of they cant reach the donation cuota to keep their servers up. What do you expect a company like GF will do looking at that?

    They could merge all server into one, and make an another server for classic. French and German Server is dead anyway.


    And for Tera Classic, instead of releasing the complete shop they could do it in increments.

    For example not all elin costume available at the beginning (Elin costumes are the best example virgins love buying that)


    They could do many other things... But you know its GF, they are not really smart and they dont care.

    Look at atmorph or threea.


    Btw thx for the P2W Crates Atmorph :love::love::love:

  • Its Gameforge a publisher that ruined AION and killing TERA with their politics im pretty sure they goin to bankrupt in future just like EN masse did. About classic i doubt its even possible and conjuct patch is the best.

    Aion has / had excellent private servers
    unfortunately Tera will have to follow the same path
    for gameforge / bluehole will be the last blow for players a great option coming to make the necessary changes or even bring back the classic game and based on the builds I saw out there that sooner we’ll see private servers pop up

    I believe that a phrase that serves as a gameforge "it will be useless to try to do something when the rope is already around the neck"

  • The real question is... Will GameForge make enought profits from a Classic server?


    This is a serious question because over the past years I have know several "pirate" servers who offer/ed what you would call Classic TERA. Max level 60 with open world pvp and pk of lowbies. Guess what? In these years they just keep shuting down because of they cant reach the donation cuota to keep their servers up. What do you expect a company like GF will do looking at that?

    Didn't do much pvp back then, for open world content i do not mean only this, but harder BAMS, guild wars, Nexus, etc... pvp is just an extra that create more a living world.


    Regarding classic, i think so, Lineage 2, Wow, Runescape, Everquest 2, etc... all have official classic servers and they are still a thing, because normal and classics are two different games, so they will have 2 different playerbases.

    This thread have more than 3000+ viewers (the other one more than 5000+), so i think there is enought interest, at least on par if not more than the normal one. There is demand for a classic servers, expecially for a old game like Tera that changed so much from the first version.

    Tera p2p 2012 founder player.

    :elin35:
    censorship!
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    Retired, waiting for #VM1 #Tera #Classic #Server.

  • This thread have more than 3000+ viewers (the other one more than 5000+), so i think there is enought interest, at least on par if not more than the normal one. There is demand for a classic servers, expecially for a old game like Tera that changed so much from the first version.

    Bloody good point, mate.
    I agree that the interest in classic Tera is at least on par with current Tera, and them some.

    There are likely thousands of old classic Tera fans who no longer bother to check up on any Tera Forums.


    I'm not surprised how many people in these forums and in En Masse's old Tera forums throw negativity and dismissal at the interest of classic Tera servers. Probably 98% of the people still checking into these forums are actively playing current Tera, and enjoy eating garbage.


    I just don't understand why they have to dismiss classic Tera interest so much. Like what is it going to harm? Is it going to take developers time away from continuing to make current Tera complete garbage like they've been doing for the last 10 years? Oh no how terrible.

    Not that it would even take up much development time to put up a classic Tera server. They'd just have to dig up old code and slap it together. Not actually develop anything much at all.
    Then they can continue to create garbage for current Tera fans.


    EDIT:

    as far as how it will make GameForge money, make the game subscription based like Tera was originally.

    Why should people get entertainment for free anyways?
    People should pay for their entertainment, and I'm more than willing to. It beats the hell out of having a "free to play" game that ends up costing you an arm and a leg in micro-transactions just to be competitive.

  • Conclusion post:


    To start it off, most people here (including me) are talking about classic server as if it was confirmed it's happening and they are waiting for our feedback.

    Truth is, everyone else who isn't "us" is probably laughing their ass off on us idiots arguing about something that doesn't even exist, nor will it ever exist, because everyone has their ideals and can't come to a compromise.


    I was vouching so hard for early lvl65 patch because overall the game was put together better/less buggy on top of not being so slow and no addition of classes that slowly started the downfall of PvP (among other things).

    Now with the "less buggy" part, I know retail Tera is in a horrible state regarding that, but I'm not talking about retail Tera.


    People are idolizing vanilla Tera so much, but there's a reason it went f2p.

    Just because you enjoyed killing BAMs for 5 minutes just to lvl doesn't mean it was great for everyone else.

    Not to mention World Bosses were always a thing, even in retail Tera. So if you actually want to kill BAMs for fun you always had the option to (though to be fair, with a long CD on their respawn).

    People praise Nexus so much, but I know for a fact that Nexus meant = lagfest and fps drops for most of the players.

    It was a joke, even if people enjoyed it.

    And like I said in a previous post, OWPvE events were also almost always present in some way or form similar to Nexus (Dreamstorm, Guardian Missions, etc).

    You just don't bother to think about it or pay attention to it.

    You really think this:

    Is thematically/gameplay-wise different than this:

    Bunch of people killing mobs in an OWPvE event... wow.

    I'm not judging ppl who enjoyed it, as I also enjoyed them sometimes, it's just the simple fact that you are blinded by nostalgia (Category 1: The Nostalgic Player)

    Not to even mention PvE class balancing. Say whatever you want about DPS meters, but it's imo largely thanks to them that most classes are balanced by now and anyone can dish out similar dmg with similar gear and skillset.

    Back then though?

    God knows how imbalanced it was, all I know for sure is sorcerer before crit buffs rarely ever crit it's major damaging skills (Fireblast, Void Pulse).

    Slayers were also suffering from similar issues afaik.

    Liking classic more is completely fine, as it was a different game overall, but saying it was better in every way is just simply ignorant, and shows that playing for about a year in 2013, then quitting and checking out for a few days some new patches until 2016 proves that you know literally nothing about the game and it's history.

    If you think this is how low-lvl PK would look like in a vm1 classic:

    You are also wrong. Sure, old returnee or new, fresh players would surel try it a bit, but anyone who kept playing after 2016 would ignore/avoid PK altogether to rush max lvl asap.

    If you can bring up factual arguments against my points, then maybe my point of view might also change.

    But for now I don't see the appeal for any lvl 60 classic, because for PvP it was slow - although arguably balanced for the most part - and for PvE it was unfair to class balancing, and the OWPvE isn't necessarily something everyone enjoys either.

    Lvl 60 still had cross-server leaderboards available, which was great, but a hypothetical classic server would only be one server anyway.


    Another thing to bring up is that the temporoary classic server that was hosted by GF 2 years ago was also a semi-failure:

    • Most people quit after a week or after hitting lvl 60 because they realised it was boring.
    • Potato servers. They were using hamsters again, and the ping was unbearable sometimes.
    • Too much content smashed into 1 package: Not enough time to do anything in a month, when levelling took at least a couple of days (unless you were tryharding).

    As for some of the people who argued that many private servers have been created and failed already, yes, but also they were private servers.

    Which means no marketing/advertising and automatically a much smaller playerbase than an official server.

    But even then, a bunch of ppl p2win'd in said servers, and in fact they do even to this day :)


    With all that said, any type of official classic is unlikely to happen, and even though it won't, it should be early lvl 65 patch, because it is probably the best starting point that they could build upon based on community feedback.

  • I'm not "blinded by nostalgia". I legitimately liked the vanilla game before all the pay to win elements, and where all the quests and lore lead up to the Argons and Argon queen being the final baddie. It was a way better, properly built world and story.
    Now let's not fool ourselves. No one played classic Tera for the storyline. It was cliche Korean garbage story, but it still had a more cohesive story than everything that came after.

    I also don't care if it was slightly buggier than the 65 patch. I'd still love to play vanilla.

    THAT SAID, I'd be willing, nay, eager to play a classic lv 65 patch server if that's what gameforge was willing to provide for a classic Tera server. That would still A BILLION TIMES BETTER than current Tera in my opinion.

    I just hated the addition of Reapers, the first of many overpowered, race/gender exclusive classes. I also wasn't a fan of the revamping of the starting zone. I liked island of Dawn.


    You can argue against Classic Tera interest by saying that not many people played the temporary classic server, which is true, but guess what? Everyone knew it would be a temporary server from the get go, so why the HELL would classic Tera fans bother investing their time into it?
    THAT is why it failed. To think otherwise is pretty stupid.


    EDIT:

    Also I am not trying to say Vanilla Tera is completely superior to all other patches in terms of balance. I just don't really care, because I spent so much time in that world with whatever bugs or "inferiority" it had, and learned to tolerate all that and roll with it. The good still outweighed the bad in vanilla, whereas in other patches, the bad began outweighing the good.
    They removed instances like wonderholme and many others for no reason, and kept adding pay to win shit.


    Just charge me a monthly fee to play the game if you want money from players so bad. Don't micro transaction my wallet to the point I want to quit.
    Maybe allow a free trial but can't leave island of dawn or can't level beyond level 5 or something.

  • Dude everything you said is true,but we are here and fighting against Gameforge who have rights to publish in "SEA,NA,EU".They are following their sh!t ideas.Cash shop updates for milking money.Sİnce 2015 it didnt change.There was sh!t ton of feedbacks,suggestions,a lot of CLASSIC server threads.They dont bother with replying or just saying "feedback forwarded" blabla and sh!t.They are uncapable,and will never learn to listen playerbase.The latest pvp is hurr durr fight thats why nobody wanna touch it.1 shots,cheaters etc.ALso without a good anti cheat,the classic server will be fail.Still some morons gonna abuse everything they can do with that cheats.

    Gameforge doesnt wanna invest more money on this game.They ruined everything with bluehole.They are doing their best to milking their latest pve'rs with RNG cash shop boxes.

    Also,when they announced limited time CLassic server,in facebook there was more than 1k likes.If u compare with other posts on facebook,their max "likes count" was 20.


    That shows how many people wants old classic and golden Tera back.And still,they are refusing,doesnt reply,dont take responsibility to their playerbase.

    And yes,tried 2-3 times to play regular tera.Sorry,i cant play this complicated,1 shot,mindless game.I cant waste my time in dungeons whole day long.I dont want to play p2w game.I dont wanna play against cheaters.I dont wanna play with unlimited grind game.Cards,EP's,advencement points,new gear processes,downgrades on items blablabla.


    The only way i can pay money for this game is Classic Tera.

    And yes,not for RNG boxes.I want to buy whatever i want without testing my %0.000000001 luck.It's gambling.

    The other game which called "ELYON" developed by BLuehole.And the graphics,gameplay is not better than TERA.Still Tera's combat system is far better than the other games and the game with that potential dieing in developer and publisher hands.Just lol.