Bluehole

    @Bluehole - can you guys finally fix exploits that are in the game since idk 6-7 years instead of just adding more and more gold sinks that completly fûck over the ethical playerbase? Since Gameforge themselves dont give a shît about banning the people that exploit their game - how about fixing the bugs/exploits?

    Just to mention a few examples:

    - people duping items like greed scrolls or zenobias

    - Ninja/Sorc/Valks Memeslashing, Flamethrower, Memepulse

    - a lot of other shit that tons of people already reported internally to you but completly get ignored

    (The only thing you guys recently bothered to fix was gear infusions & maybe the pet duping but tons of people abused that shit for months and didnt get punished nor were the "farmed" items ever removed - like its not fking hard to discover certain accounts with thousands of mats)


    This game is already unplayable for any casual or in general for anyone that doesn't play since a few years (most endgame players exploited at least one or two things mentioned above to even stay relevant which is pretty sad on its own)


    And Gameforge - how about you actually punish people for exploiting this game? and actually remove the items that were generated from all these exploits & bots?


    Also just the typical issue - community managers are silent and absolutely do not listen to any feedback given by the community, especially since certain topics like PvP + Leaderboards + p2w Consumables + Exploits still get ignored after years of people complaining. Actually amazed how people are able to ruin this game with the potential to be good while literally learning nothing out of their mistakes - or rather just don't giving a single f*ck about the people that actually still play and somewhat enjoy the game.

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    Edited once, last by tobtheking2 ().

    Good luck tobtheking, threea managed to answer some random appologize for mystel lags 1h ago, but he/she didnt managed to answer to your 16h old topic. Thats what i call a community manager hahahahhaa.


    Ps: Ive got a warning for my last post were i said CMs are ghost. LOL. Better should warn the CM for dont do their job.

    tobtheking2

    Why are you reporting problems or making people aware of such things? Haven't you learned your lesson already? It's better to never say a word, to anyone especially support, keep what you can to yourself and your friends and have fun!

    Also Equinox and I wanted to forward another suggestion to @Bluehole considering the recent events of people duping greedhead-scrolls and rerolling their gear for perfect stats - you guys need to hotfix an item that lets everyone freely choose the stats of their gear. Let everyone get perfect stats to stop the advantage people get from exploiting/duping if you guys are incapable of fixing the issue itself. At least make the game playable for the ethical playerbase that doesn't want to abuse nor benefit from this whole fiesta.

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    make the game playable for the ethical playerbase that doesn't want to abuse nor benefit from this whole fiesta.

    Agree. It is unpleasant that there are dishonest players who can only deceive, exploit and cheat in order to get at least some advantage over those who achieve everything on their own. There have been such crooks at all times, but in recent years, it seems to me, there have been especially a lot of them.

    :elin12:

    What honestly surprises me much more is that a company facing closure, like Enmasse, still reacted to this - and much more quickly - by disabling certain items until further notice, as well as banning a few people abusing it on NA. Not sure what, or if, Bluehole/Krafton and KTERA have done something else besides banning people and publically shaming them for their actions, but at least they did act.


    And yet here we are, with nothing that has been done for us to this day. To put the cherry on top, we are left with one server being effectively out of service.


    While I would normally say that bans won't be carried out with no one reporting, I honestly doubt that at this point there hasn't been any reports about any people that either have exploited themselves, or gotten their hands on exploited gear. Hell, people were allowed to get their hands on exploited gear for quite a while with nothing happening. Meanwhile other exploiters made a fortune off of it. And ironically it would be Gameforge losing money here seeing as it would (severely) hurt their own sales for anything regarding rerolling. Just would like to point out here, in other games, people have been not just banned but sued for such actions, given their context pretty much lined up with fraud and theft felonies. Add onto that a possible relation to the server issues on Mystel, and you could add cyber-sabotage to that list.


    Either way, knowledge about the exploit in question has become fairly spread now, with people acquiring (near) perfect gear overnight, sometimes magically guildless and disappearing from friend lists (implying they server transferred. Hm, wonder why!). That includes players with a name to themselves, hell, sometimes players with a huge ego, who claimed to be a shining example of this community. While if anything, the actions prove they are a shining example of how rotten and vile it has become. Absolutely pathetic that one goes so low and out of their way just for an advantage on leaderboards that are already riddled with exploiters of all sorts, against whom no action has been taken either. Having a bad gearing and/or reroll system is no excuse for these actions either. Nor is "rolling with it" because "everyone else does it". It's irresponsible and makes you no better.


    So yeah, if any action is to be taken, at this point, besides disabling all items that are the target of the exploits until further notice, only a rollback or a targeted ban of all people involved would help, albeit the damage is already done. And given how long the exploit was left rampant, the only effective rollback would have to be from at least a week ago - which will sit badly with a lot of the players that played normally, given how much progress they will lose.


    Either way, action is required, and in a quick fashion. So Gameforge, think this through. Because as a publisher, it is your responsibility to sanction players that go these lengths. Forwarding everything to a developer that we established multiple times as being incompetent won't help here. Hell, take legal action if you want to, you do you. But do something.


    And as for the players that abused this:

    I hope your irresponsible behavior doesn't reflect your real life actions, because history shows countless times where this ended. Either way you have proven are devoid of any sort of respect for sportmanship or fair play - with the game being "old" or "dying" not being an excuse for any actions here, and given that, neither you nor your actions as a player deserve any respect either.


    tobtheking2


    While I agree that yes, the gearing system is flawed, and such a scroll could fix the problem, I very much doubt you can coerce Bluehole into creating such a scroll even given our circumstances. They'll probably brush it off as bad managing from Gameforge's side and tell them to deal with the problem themselves. So I wouldn't get my hopes up there.

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    @Bluehole - can you guys finally fix exploits that are in the game since idk 6-7 years instead of just adding more and more gold sinks that completly fûck over the ethical playerbase?

    Bluehole/Krafton's answer: "no, we started out for love of the game but now we like money more.."

    Rara avis in TERA

    It's too late you can't stop them anymore. They game is beyond broken. Ban wave? Game is already dead in LFG. Rollback? Yea screw the normal players.

    This game is beyond saving anyway.


    Too much damage has already been done (not just now, but over the course of years, half a decade actually) which can barely be undone anymore and the community is pretty much rotten to the core.


    Not to mention you're pretty much of a hopeless case if you think anything changes this time.

    Ultima | Lv70 Priest | ILv 498 | Yurian | Main
    Aeq | Lv70 Archer | ILv 466 | Yurian | Ex-Main
    Quest | Lv70 Zerk | ILv 470     | Yurian | what a joke


    Game Over.

    Lordz of Ownage - 11/09/13 - Never forget

    The random roll system means endgame is about constantly finding pieces with better rolls. Each time you find a better rolled piece, either you or whomever buys your old piece needs a liberation scroll. Each time a piece is liberated, 195 TT is spent. Think it is in the developer's or publisher's interest to change this and kill the #1 driver of sales? Actually, the influx of duped gear propably shows as a massive revenue spike on GF CEO's analytics dashboard :)