Is it worth comming back?

    Quote from Layleen17

    You might be right, still scaring potential new players doesn't help the game.

    Unless we are talking about kids aged 2-10 years old, the truth should not be hidden, even if it's scary. Grownups can normally handle it.


    And what "helps the game" is only secondary after what helps the individual player or non player to have a better understanding of things, thus becoming able to make better choices in his life. This is another reason to state the facts and not hide them in a selfish manner to keep the game we are so addicted to alive and running for a bit longer.

    ~ Beat your addiction and stop playing TERA! It's not worth your precious time... ~

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    Quote from Moler

    Unless we are talking about kids aged 2-10 years old, the truth should not be hidden, even if it's scary. Grownups can normally handle it.


    And what "helps the game" is only secondary after what helps the individual player or non player to have a better understanding of things, thus becoming able to make better choices in his life. This is another reason to state the facts and not hide them in a selfish manner to keep the game we are so addicted to alive and running for a bit longer.

    As i wrote multiple times already i came back in October after a break of 3 years i guess. I'm far from being addicted to this game.
    I've checked both this forum and reddit before downloading and while i do agree that it requires a lot of grind/dedication and it's full of people paying to skip progress i don't find it so unplayable for what regards PvE.

    There's already a detailed post i wrote above, not gonna explain again.

    What about people shitting on a game and yet posting on forum without constructive criticism ? Can you call yourself mature doing so ?

    Quote from Layleen17

    As i wrote multiple times already i came back in October after a break of 3 years i guess. I'm far from being addicted to this game.
    I've checked both this forum and reddit before downloading the game and while i do agree that the game requires grind/dedication and it's full of people paying to skip progress i don't find it so unplayable for what regards PvE.

    I've already wrote a detailed post above, not gonna explain more.

    What about people shitting on a game and yet posting on the forum without constructive criticism ? Are you mature doing that ?

    You're struggling to separate the roles of players (customers) and company.


    Players can share their concerns regarding the current state of the game without having to present any suggestions and that's still constructive criticism. The companies that develop and publish the game are the ones responsible for taking action when it comes to how the economy, gearing system etc. will be handled.


    Also, let's not pretend players started sharing their thoughts about the P2W and gambling aspects of the game just now. These companies are fully aware of what they're doing but they sure as hell appreciate when some players try to undermine the importance of having a game that's not a huge virtual casino.


    Quote from Layleen17

    We spent 6 posts in this same page talking about how p2w is the wrong definition and how stupid it is to drive new players away just because you grew bored of it and here we go again.

    You're the 3rd problem of this game, in order:
    1) Krafton
    2) GF
    3) Toxic community

    Ah yes, pointing at the obvious flaws in this game that have been ignored by Krafton and Gameforge. Such a toxic behavior.


    The P2W term has been explained to you multiple times so I'm not going to answer that.

    You're struggling to understand that writing on this forum has been useless for years and it'll continue being useless so the only reasonable things left to do at this point are to either quit for good or try and keep it together because the playerbase is just going to shrink and Gameforge doesn't really care about that. Once the game won't be sustainable they'll just stop publishing and Krafton is already working on another game so they also couldn't care less.

    I also couldn't care less of reading people complaining, but writing "muh p2w stay away" to new players what does achieve in your point of view ?
    The game is completely playable even if you don't invest money. You won't reach BiS gear ( and with this i mean perfect rolls on everything ) but that's NOT necessary to be able to enjoy the game.


    If after years of playing you're tired of this grind it doesn't necessarily mean the whole game has to be deleted just because you don't have any more stimulus to continue.

    Quote from Layleen17

    [...]writing on this forum has been useless for years and it'll continue being useless so the only reasonable things left to do at this point are to either quit for good or try and keep it together because the playerbase is just going to shrink and Gameforge doesn't really care about that. Once the game won't be sustainable they'll just stop publishing and Krafton is already working on another game so they also couldn't care less.

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    Huh... Which is precisely why we're warning new/returning players about the P2W and grindy aspect of this game?


    Someone asks if it's worth to start playing or to come back, we say maybe – if they're OK having to deal with a huge gambling system that's creeped into every single part of this game – and you go all white knight mode for a company that couldn't care less about you?


    We won't drive new/returning players away by telling them the truth, Krafton and Gameforge have been doing that for us.

    Quote from Senorita

    Huh... Which is precisely why we're warning new/returning players about the P2W and grindy aspect of this game?


    Someone asks if it's worth to start playing or to come back, we say maybe – if they're OK having to deal with a huge gambling system that's creeped into every single part of this game – and you go all white knight mode for a company that couldn't care less about you?


    We won't drive new/returning players away by telling them the truth, Krafton and Gameforge have been doing that for us.

    I'm not whiteknighting anything except the game itself.
    If you'd care reading different threads other than the ones screaming about how shit the game is you'd notice i'm surely not a GF fan.

    Please, re-read most of the posts written in this thread, 90% of them are just "SHIT P2W unistall, endless grind no fun bla bla bla". Probably a huge portion of them have at least hundreds of hours played if not way more than that.
    Warning people is a thing, driving them away telling you can't have fun here is another and it's not the truth.

    I'm not gonna reply anymore, i've made my point more than enough. Besides, this is becoming a poor men's war.
    There's nothing to gain on each side by discussing further.

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    No. after playing from 2013, I quit about 2 months ago . the game is very dead. Community is very toxic, at least in the end game content, and there are lots of cheaters, (some people will tell you that its even mandatory to cheat in end game cuz of A Dps check in those dungeons) , and it sucks competing against those, cuz you can never out dps them, or even be close to their dps.


    For new comers, its almost impossible to keep up unless you pay2win; most of them quit. Basically the only the ones who remain playing are old players like me, who have stopped enjoying the game long ago, they stay mainly because they are stuck in here cuz they are addicted. I know because I was in that state as well; it is very difficult to let go after so many hours invested in 1 game, after years of hard work, etc. At least for me that was the reason. And I saw many others who were the same as me, and most of them quit before me, and the ones who still remain are in denial cuz "cOmBaT SyStEm Is SoOoOo gReAt". The ones who still play this game are masochists who just keep convincing themselves that they still enjoy the game cuz of combat system. Bro, doing the same dungeons all over again, no matter how fun is the combat system, this gets old VERY fast.


    Even the new dungeons are recycled bosses that maybe will look abit different but have almost the same patterns as other bosses you already experienced before. They even got SO lazy that when before there were 3 bosses in a dungeon, now there's only 2 or 1 with more HP. That's how bad it is. They even announced that they maybe will introduce 1-2 new dungeons a year. That's "NeW CoNtEnT" for you.


    I won't even start talking about all the cheaters, and low population of people in the game.....


    Now days I play Genshin Impact and I am very happy. I am f2p , and its combat system is very fun, different than tera's but still fun, and soooo pretty as well. I enjoy every moment of it, and it has been a long time since I enjoyed a game so much.


    Edit: also, Tera announced they will bring a new class but only for Playstation.For people who are still too blind to see what this means, this means that THEY GAVE UP ON TERA PC. If it already wasn't obvious enough before...

    Yeah because Genshin is fully enjoyable as f2p... even streamers with thousands of $ spent on Wishes sometimes fail to max out characters.

    I have a couple MMOs that i'm waiting but Genshin is just a pretty game and that's all. YOu can play it 20-30 hours until you reach the "end game" and then you either succumb to the Gatcha system or you get bored.

    Don't forget the focus of tera team wich "release" event dungeon ... not IM playable and for HH, if you are not skilled, stuffed +15, optimized and skilled in all high level dungeon, you "don't meet the requirement to do HH" because we want to do it ...

    It's EVENT dungeon and not all players can fully enjoy it !!

    1st is changing mentality of the GM who create event dungeons, they don't even know their community, ilevel don't reflect the dungeon the least (try aeternia with the required ilevel and u'll be stuck in the dungeon for half an hour at least)


    In tera, to reach max ilevel, you have to pay2win, if you IM, you may success in middle dungeon but hi level never proc and you need a fixed team to do end level dungeon but you must have maxed out your stuff to do hi end level dungeon that gives you enough to max out your stuff ... and you must be skilled to be picked up in hi end dungeons ... well, speak about mentality

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