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    Quote from ZaMpa

    I'm surprised nobody mentionned the 6 GB of RAM the game takes right after launch now.

    RIP people with 8GB or less.


    I have 32GB os it' not a concern for me, but i think it's kinda WEIRD actually, i mean, the game itself is 8 yers old now, even if it has been modified, updated and now in 64bit, how come it jumped from 2.5GB to 6GB from one day to the next one ...?


    Ez.



    BHS wants to announce a performance improvement under the assumptions the systems that still run the game can spare the resources.(bruteforcing)



    if you had to modify game files to get a playable experience before, with this client you just got outright excluded.


    you souldnt need a 2020 system to run a game based on an engine from 2009 even with the modification it took

    Quote from Wanheda

    this is with all other mmos also.. from expansion to expansion you need more power. This is because computer get stronger and grafic better and better..

    LMAO, did you noticed anything better on TERA between before/after patch that explain +140% of RAM used ?

    Graphics are strictly the same, any everything else.

    Also... graphics are supposed to use the VRAM from the video card.


    (it seems loading times are shorter, but it may be because i didn't play from.. almost a year)


    And, as Teixas said, it's a trend since multi-core CPU and lowest cost of RAM...etc devs tends to drop refinment and optimization, counting on the computer's power to compensate the heavi...ness (?) of the game.

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    Quote from ZaMpa

    LMAO, did you noticed anything better on TERA between before/after patch that explain +140% of RAM used ?

    Graphics are strictly the same, any everything else.

    Lmao, before patch my graphic settings were lowest possible to play smooth pvp. After patch i play with maximum graphic, even in cs no lags. My eyes just bleeding from these many colors now.

    Quote from Buschfunker

    Lmao, before patch my graphic settings were lowest possible to play smooth pvp. After patch i play with maximum graphic, even in cs no lags. My eyes just bleeding from these many colors now.

    Before patch I could visit Highwatch and trade with broker and use the bank. I could venture outside without the floor vanishing. In Exodor I could see the ground cover and enjoy the environment without a grey mist over the whole screen. Before I could interact with other players without my game crawling to a standstill and everyone appearing as a grey blob. Now my computer runs at over 95 resources spent and my operating system is asking me if I want to change my windows theme to save reseources. Now the GPU is burning a hole in the side of the case. It takes many minutes for the game to finally kick out and for the fans to halt from melt down. Last night I gave up cus my inventory didn't show at all. I couldn't even use the bank let alone exchange items I had won for things.


    The game ran before. It doesn't anymore for me. I have accepted that my Win7 i7 64Bit with just 8GB memory can no longer run this game. I'm not about to tax the system. I've tried everything to improve matters but sadly the computer is just being overloaded and its worth more to me than a game. I may come back when I move over to a better system, but for now I have to leave this game alone. Its killing my computer.


    PS I don't expect the latest MMOs to work on this computer. That's why you invest in better kit so you can play the later games. But come on, I was playing this game just after launch and the game isn't any different from what it was then. The only graphical change that I see is a strange glow from some spells and I go blue when I launch my awakening spells. Everything after that is like walking through the treacle that I did use to be able to skip through. The patch killed Tera for me.... Summary. Slow download. Failed to patch forcing reinstall. Crawls along gobbling my resources. I know when I'm beaten. Like I've said before there are plenty of games thankfully that still work on this machine without fault. One of which is about to launch yet another major expansion. Just in time.

    Sry mate, i have an i7 random cpu - 64bit too, my graphic card is random 4 year old model. Comparing with u i just have 16gb ram. Seems like there is something wrong with your computer.

    I dont even come above 40% CPU usage. Game is running very smooth since the patch.

    I didnt have any mods on my tera, didnt even changed one letter in the config.


    The game is working very good atm on healthy computers. I dont have game based lags, no crashes or graphic bugs. Even the grey people in highwatch are gone after a few seconds.

    Quote from Buschfunker

    Sry mate, i have an i7 random cpu - 64bit too, my graphic card is random 4 year old model. Comparing with u i just have 16gb ram. Seems like there is something wrong with your computer.

    I dont even come above 40% CPU usage. Game is running very smooth since the patch.

    I didnt have any mods on my tera, didnt even changed one letter in the config.


    The game is working very good atm on healthy computers. I dont have game based lags, no crashes or graphic bugs. Even the grey people in highwatch are gone after a few seconds.

    horsesht. I apologize for being crass but if this is true then you are extremely lucky or you dont mind your system being slowly destroyed by a piece of software just running away with all of its resources.



    my own experience on this patch is just garbage, and i was running the game on basically 2019 Hardware , the system is more than capable of brute-forcing the game even post patch.


    However its simply not a stable experience AT ALL. after a few mins of being even just idle the game just runs away with all of the CPU and Ram no matter how much you limit it to not doing so, often ending with itself crashing or taking the whole system with it.



    and before you go " something wrong with your computer" i went as far as both installing TERA on a Fresh system image(same outcome) and on a workstation level Laptop(same year) both which should easily run circles around it.


    I even brought up this issue to support(including the full Ms config report of the systems used).....they reply just showed me they didn't even bother to Read by just pointing me to the post with the system requirements.


    I honestly just had enough, it's not my job to fix their broken mess of game and if they cannot be arsed to Help then I'm not gonna jeopardize my hardware for a game that is basically acting like a Virus, especially considering that the content itself was already at the edge of what's tolerable..

    Quote from Buschfunker

    Sry mate, i have an i7 random cpu - 64bit too, my graphic card is random 4 year old model. Comparing with u i just have 16gb ram. Seems like there is something wrong with your computer.

    I dont even come above 40% CPU usage. Game is running very smooth since the patch.

    I didnt have any mods on my tera, didnt even changed one letter in the config.


    The game is working very good atm on healthy computers. I dont have game based lags, no crashes or graphic bugs. Even the grey people in highwatch are gone after a few seconds.

    Which bit of 8GB RAM didn't you read. My system is floored the minute the game pops. My system resources clock over 95% now and so pulls in the hard drives which go into melt down. My graphics card is a NVidia GeForce GTX 460. Sadly I just can't use Tera. I could before but not now. And yet I can run Motherload in BfA with no such problems. The game isn't working for me now and the only thing that changed was the patch. I would say it needs the 16GB now to play and so a lot of older kit that enjoyed the game wont be able to run it.


    PS My 64Bit i7 has been in service since Feb 2011 and I was playing Tera at launch, along with WoW, SWToR, Rift, Archeage, Guildwars 1 and 2, Eve and Star Trek. I was even playing Archeage from EU on the NA server and I didn't get these problems. Only problem I have had is Archeage burning out my NVidia. Anyhoo I'm playing BnS and LoL now and trying out BDO and all seems to be working fine. There is no way I can play Tera, no matter what you say.

    Quote from Mayku

    Which bit of 8GB RAM didn't you read. My system is floored the minute the game pops. My system resources clock over 95% now and so pulls in the hard drives which go into melt down. My graphics card is a NVidia GeForce GTX 460. Sadly I just can't use Tera. I could before but not now. And yet I can run Motherload in BfA with no such problems. The game isn't working for me now and the only thing that changed was the patch. I would say it needs the 16GB now to play and so a lot of older kit that enjoyed the game wont be able to run it.


    PS My 64Bit i7 has been in service since Feb 2011 and I was playing Tera at launch, along with WoW, SWToR, Rift, Archeage, Guildwars 1 and 2, Eve and Star Trek. I was even playing Archeage from EU on the NA server and I didn't get these problems. Only problem I have had is Archeage burning out my NVidia. Anyhoo I'm playing BnS and LoL now and trying out BDO and all seems to be working fine. There is no way I can play Tera, no matter what you say.

    Doesn't matter.
    BHS coding is so OP that you need 12GB of ram now.

    Preview: TERA Goes 64-bit

    Quote from Vanli

    Does matter

    you linked old recommended vs new recommended.

    However, the old recommended is the new minimum (8gb)
    Take a look at steam

    What matters to me sadly is that I can't play the game with my current kit. Interestingly I was just standing in the auction house in Orgrimmar in another well known MMO and my load with a packed AH was 60% and CPU at just 10%. I never lag in Warcraft and its the 64Bit version. It always tells me I need to upgrade my video card but always lets me in. This game went from playable to not playable with zero extra content to make it worth getting a new machine. So something had to give. I know when I'm beaten so 'game over'.


    PS The problem for the game is its just about playable if you never come into contact with another player. Sadly the minute any other player arrives the game crawls to a standstill, the images stutter, players appear as grey blobs and worse the floor is likely to open up. And then my computer goes into melt down with the noise of the fans. It takes forever for it to unload when I come out and worse, when I try to close the computer down it just hangs there forever. And you can't ever run the Gameforge client cus no matter how you close it there are processes that you cannot force close without switching the computer off. Never mind. Like I say, plenty other games to play that don't cripple my computer. I'm not using a new computer just for Tera.


    All the best. Have fun. I'll miss you all.

    Quote from Mayku

    What matters to me sadly is that I can't play the game with my current kit. Interestingly I was just standing in the auction house in Orgrimmar in another well known MMO and my load with a packed AH was 60% and CPU at just 10%. I never lag in Warcraft and its the 64Bit version. It always tells me I need to upgrade my video card but always lets me in. This game went from playable to not playable with zero extra content to make it worth getting a new machine. So something had to give. I know when I'm beaten so 'game over'.


    PS The problem for the game is its just about playable if you never come into contact with another player. Sadly the minute any other player arrives the game crawls to a standstill, the images stutter, players appear as grey blobs and worse the floor is likely to open up. And then my computer goes into melt down with the noise of the fans. It takes forever for it to unload when I come out and worse, when I try to close the computer down it just hangs there forever. And you can't ever run the Gameforge client cus no matter how you close it there are processes that you cannot force close without switching the computer off. Never mind. Like I say, plenty other games to play that don't cripple my computer. I'm not using a new computer just for Tera.


    All the best. Have fun. I'll miss you all.

    Don't get me wrong, but I uses to play tera at i7 3630qm and gtx660m with 16GB of ram.
    Lock to 60 FPS in graphocs driver, turn off frame smoothing in s1engine, you shoudl get 60 FPS in dungs, and lower in open world.

    The 64 patch was necessary to keep the game relevant in the long run. It would not be sensible to not develop the game just cater to the few % of players stuck on ancient relic rigs.

    Quote from Mayku

    Which bit of 8GB RAM didn't you read. My system is floored the minute the game pops. My system resources clock over 95% now and so pulls in the hard drives which go into melt down. My graphics card is a NVidia GeForce GTX 460. Sadly I just can't use Tera. I could before but not now. And yet I can run Motherload in BfA with no such problems. The game isn't working for me now and the only thing that changed was the patch. I would say it needs the 16GB now to play and so a lot of older kit that enjoyed the game wont be able to run it.


    PS My 64Bit i7 has been in service since Feb 2011 and I was playing Tera at launch, along with WoW, SWToR, Rift, Archeage, Guildwars 1 and 2, Eve and Star Trek. I was even playing Archeage from EU on the NA server and I didn't get these problems. Only problem I have had is Archeage burning out my NVidia. Anyhoo I'm playing BnS and LoL now and trying out BDO and all seems to be working fine. There is no way I can play Tera, no matter what you say.

    Sorry for my bad english, but the 8gb ram is the problem.

    Before the 64 bit client i never have problems with my old pc and my 8gb ram. Btw, i have an old AMD Processor, no intel inside and a old NVIDIA GTX 630. After the patch i have much laggs, disconnects and freeze. I have update to 16 gb now. Its one 8gb stick more and one click into the motherboard. With 8gb ram tera use 7,5 gb of my ram, with 16gb tera eats 9,5. You see the different? Sometimes you dont need to have think to complicated.


    I have pick up the second 8 gb from a old PC of my son.


    Its running perfect now.


    :stick:





    This patch has been very badly implemented and they must have understood the problems is was going to cause with 8GB memory and Win7. The developers and publisher no doubt factored in the drop off rate of some players who may not have the finacial resources nor the technical ability to resolve both the patching issues and the technical issues. No real help has been provided and this thread receives no formal point of discussion from the publisher. And the reason is cus the small number it affects is already a loss they are willing to take.


    My advice to the publisher is you really could do with improving your communication skills. Also it is worth making the point to the developer that every user is important. Especially when content generally for this game is so poor for your average user. Those casual players with poor systems could be just the kind of players that take up a sub or buy from the store. You lose all that opportunity by dumping them. Plenty of free to play games out there at the moment and I don't see them turning their backs on players like me.


    Not a problem. The patch booted me out and expects me to upgrade and tweak and reinstall and get a different OS etc etc. Its easier just playing something else.


    Thanks for the tip and I'm sure it will help others. I do appreciate all the advice. I am with it now in terms of what is needed to improve matters. But I'm gonna take a rain check.

    in order to make it easier ot read and follow your line of thought here:

    here's the thing tho and ill go in order to follow your line of thought as well:


    1: they(BHS) straight up either dont have the knowledge and/or code base or they flat out do not care and were counting on people having systems that would just overpower the game thru years of no optimization passes. The implementation of the 64 bit patch was horrible because there was no transition period AT ALL, most other games that go thru this process actually implement their clients in a way that allows both clients to coexist as a form of legacy support. If i had to guess BHS doesn't have the knowledge in studio to implement this properly in the server, and even if they did i dont think GF or any other publisher is interested in carrying the overhead their servers would have to take to communicate with both clients, considering the horrible performance servers have been having.


    2: forget communication, at this point anyone that legitimately wanted to help is long gone, the content has been consistently poor since adventure coins became a thing(and they failed to deliver on the idea that led them to use them as now we have even more entry restrictions than before.), we have time based subscriptions but your being restricted in useful game time, so the sub is simply not worth it even as a dedicated player. As for technical issues, unless it involves the Shop, the publishers straight up dont read your tickets(and i know this from experience since i have the same issue, albeit for different reasons and symptoms).



    lastly, just forget it, it's not our job to fix their broken game, if neither BHS nor GF can't be arsed to provide support, i'd recommend stop wasting your time on their door and try something else.

    Let's not forget that this is a free to play game for the most part. The problem of games that are developed by one company and published by another is that as long as the game developer makes a game that enables shop sales and ingame transactions that make money they are hardly going to trouble themselves over a small percentage of the player base. This isn't Eve Online where the game developer has an active interest in their community or say World of Wracraft where development and subs go hand in hand.


    The game first feeds publishers and not any community. The publisher has no say or control over the game other than maintaining their cash flow from the product. There will have been a monitoring of losses since the patch was launched and so as long as this fits within their business plan then they will just ignore the moans of players having problems, knowing eventually they will go away. Technical support for this game is limited cus they have very little control over anything from a publishing point of view. Best they can do is report the problem. BUT the developer is hardly going make an exception for a few hundred players having probs around the world.


    Gameforge are also eyeing the NA market now so will probably be able supplement any losses.


    There will be no magical resolution of this problem. Users will have to work out how to sort it out for themselves if they want to play. Anyone with a problem will have to rely on friendly players to help them sort it out. Two things should have been clearly stated before this patch was launched and that was players with older installations on the lower end of spec should have been told to reinstall the game fresh from the getgo. Also that the game really needs 16GB of memory to work at all.


    One last thing worth noting and that is Blizzard carry out a full system check on your computer before you even can install any patch or expansion and advise of any issues. I know this cus my graphics card just about meets their requirments and they advise me of such. Instead of posting a DXDiag to a group of technical folk that have no control over the development of the game, why didn't the developer themself write a short program that checked the end users system before the game was updated. The process was running as REPAIR and VERIFYING.... it did neither. It just updated selected files. That is an UPDATE.


    I really must go now. I have stopped playing the game. I can't anyway and in truth it feels like a blessing to be honest. They were probably doing me a favour. Everything happen for a reason.

    This thing just gets worse and worse. I log in after less than a couple of weeks to make sure the game is up to date and now it is repairing itself again and it looks to me like its completely reinstalling the game. Its been going for ages and its still 4% with 24 hours to go. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. This game seriously is history. I can't even leave the game for a week before it gets crippled again... AND I WASN'T EVEN PLAYING.


    My bad for trying to log on. Like I'm gonna wait a day for an update every time this game sneezes. What is wrong with you people.


    Way to go with the forum icon by the way. Had no idea who MA was for a moment there. Didn't help.


    PS Half an hour in and just 6% and an estimated 22 hours and 43 minutes. So funny.


    EDIT: I decided to leave it running this morning and it seriously appears to be either checking every individual file or updating every single file. Sorry but not every body has fibre high fast internet and super powered computers. No idea what they expect these days. They are just alienating a whole load of ordinary players that just enjoyed this game but are being dumped cus of incredibly bad games design. The game isn't any different to what it was. There isn't anything new about this thing. Only thing that has changed is that I have to now keep going through this nightmare just to play. Please will you tell these developers to stop it already. Never mind.


    OK Been running for hours and just 18% and still 18 hours to go. You call that progress. I call it bonkers. They haven't got a clue. Hardly encourages me to play this game. Like ever. And there is no guarantee it will be working when its done anyway.

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    I quiting this game too. Almost all my friend which i played this game cant play it anymore (they dont work because they still going to school, and they have weaker computers, so they cant upgrade it for now). We choose this game because requiments was good enought to play at start, but now, after 64bit they can no longer play because requiments go up. Yeah u can talk its their own problem sure, do what you want. I tried myself play this game some time, hope they will somehow run this game in future, but now i know, they will not.


    So... it was great journey. Good luck all players players who will stay.

    And bad luck Gameforge & BHM, who ruined this game, forced active players to quit focusing only on buyers and killed almost community. We will evade your games in future as there are better companies who care more about players.