In defense of the summer loading screens

  • I got quite annoyed by another thread that has appeared in the forum yesterday(which was closed), I feel like the thread opener is "plain wrong", especially when he literally said that these fan arts are literally "child pornography".


    What determine an image to be considered "sexual"?


    Personally, and correct me if I am missing something, there are only a few traits to look at:


    - Dress(or lack thereof)

    Is the subject wearing something questionable? revealing? is it missing any clothing parts?


    - View Angle

    Is the image portrayed in such a viewing angle to give emphasis to certain parts of the subject's body? like for example, is the image a straight up view of a character's under skirt?


    - Pose and expression

    Is the subject presented in a way to suggest any sexual feelings? is it placing his limbs in a way to highlight certain parts of it's body? is it's pose trying to focus the viewer attention on certain body parts?


    - Actions

    Is the subject doing something considered sexual? like XXX or YYY ? is another character in the scene touching the subject inappropriately?


    - Setting and Items

    Is there anything around the subject that's suggesting something kinky going on? any items that look "inappropriate" ?


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    With this in mind, let's see and judge if any of the loading screens meet any of the criteria I just mentioned:


    UCWRcFU.jpg

    Dress:Nope

    View:Nope

    Pose:Nope

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    zoEAFh5.jpg

    Dress:Nope

    View:Nope

    Pose:Nope

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    yUEV2xQ.jpg

    Dress:Maybeee you can consider that top a bit revealing but it's nothing you don't see normally in the "real world"

    View:Nope

    Pose:Nope

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    41yVElr.jpg

    Dress:Nope

    View:Nope

    Pose:Nope

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    jkhUP93.jpg

    Dress:Nope

    View:Maybe some angles may be considered suggesting, but this wallpaper isn't really focused on any character specifically, and with this many characters on screen it's not unusual that one or two may be in a view angle that, if focused(a.k.a. if you literally ignore everything else), may hint to a slightly sensual theme

    Pose:Nope

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    WZkOFSG.jpg

    eh


    iLmMbN0.jpg

    Dress:Nope

    View:That may be considered to be an "inspiring" view, too bad I am not talking about the elin but the castanic so nobody cares.

    Pose:As above

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    wtyUf3I.jpg

    Dress:That looks like the Maritime Sukumitzu (not sure abut the spelling here), an in-game costume that consist in an one-piece blue swimsuit with a wet-looking semi-transparent sailor-like shirt on top of it. A wet and semi transparent shirt would normally be an erotic detail if wasn't that below the shirt there's a non-transparent swimsuit so...dunno about you but for me it's pretty meaningless in this instance.

    View:

    A frontal view mostly highlighting the subject's face,while all the rest is behind; a leg is even slightly out of focus, I don't see anything there.

    Pose:

    Looks like the normal pose of someone reading a book on a...grassy beach? well either way, the pose doesn't suggest anything to me.

    Action:Reading a book may be erotic to some people nobody.

    Setting:I like the watermelon slices ~


    l0iTfzt.jpg

    Dress:

    This looks like a 2013 swimsuit for elin that includes a rubber duck ring. The bikini isn't particularly slim in any part and in this image there's no "thinning" of it so it looks like a regular, real-world like bikini.

    View:Nope

    Pose:

    The blushing may be interpreted in a certain way, but there are other reasons why someone may be blushing, so, it's questionable at best. The head slightly resting on hand doesn't necessarily mean anything, it's a pretty neutral pose.

    Action:Nope

    Setting:Nope


    Rating of this image by the "Experts" of popular anime image boards that includes explicit loli anime pics:

    Danbooru (can't post the link due to the nature of the site):

    Xdfumb1.jpg

    Gelbooru(even if the uploader is Danbooru the mods of Gelbooru can freely asset the rating):

    t4Ce6Z9.png


    So yeah, it considered "Safe" even by the expert(the other 2 ratings are "Questionable" and "Explicit")


    qVDri5y.jpg

    Dress:

    This swimsuit looks like the "White Stockings Mallot" from Tera, it doesn't have a seductive design by any capacity tho I always wondered what the heck of a swimsuit includes stockings. This particular costume is even "safer" than the previous bikini as it doesn't really expose any parts "X" parts of the body, in real world scenario nobody will bat an eye if you were to wear such costume(in a beach obviously).

    View:Nope

    Pose:

    The pose and the blushing may slightly suggest a romantic vibe within the picture. But If I were to classify this in that spectrum I'd put it in an "very weak" category.

    Action:

    The "V" sign usually stands for "Victory" or "Peace" and it's intended to be a generic positive sign with no particular connotations outside that.

    Setting:Nope


    Now, if someone still see anything sexual in this image, he can contact me and I'll kindly share with him some links to actual hentai sites where the "actual" hentai / pornographic stuff is, because if you think this is anywhere near "child pornography" as the user in the other thread said, I think you've lived in a basement or something, have you ever went to a beach? have you seen even what preteen people wear ?


    TL; DR

    If you see anything sexual or inappropriate in these screens I fear you're just projecting your own insecurities, go look at what the real "loli hentai" looks like kk thx bai.

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    Edited 2 times, last by senita456 ().

  • There must be an option to allow custom screenshots

    Agreed (this part).

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  • Hello, thanks for feedback. This one is mine.

    The front person is just the main clothing of our sorc: bH4W427.png


    Since I decided to do a night scenery, I was scared that it could not fit to the topic. That is why I decided that the character would wear it more as a bikini (I was so scared of not fitting the topic that I included the word "summer" on four written places xd). I honestly did not even think that people could see it sexually, I just always love to draw my three mates and me:

    L6GVSdP.png

    This was my last entry so now I wanted another person to be in the focus. The people in the background are all lovely people I like to play with, I did not decide on what race they are.


    Yet I somehow understand that people get tired of Elins so I do not blame others for getting mad. I think many artists felt like me and wanted to fit to the topic. That's why they drew their Elins in bikinis. I do not see any problems with the pictures either and as you said, it somehow is just interpretation. For me this is not a child, it's my 22 years old stupid ape mate. (I know you are reading this x3) And I think most of the artist also just see "their character" and wanted to illustrate it.


    I know it's not necessary to justify myself, since it's also personal taste, interpretation and the story behind the picture.

    Just thought you might be interested. Next time it's our valk's turn to be the focus.

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  • Bah..it's a fact that the game is elin-centric and aims to release as much cute/sexual content as possible when it comes to costumes...which totally doesn't fit a combat game where you need to defeat huge monsters...just look, almost all the winning loading screens feature elins as the main/only character, and that's just a reflection of what the game is being pushed towards (has been for years tbh)...the obnoxious dominance of little loli characters with barbie dresses or lingerie..might as well rename it Winx Online.

    I could even bear having this type of content, if it was balanced by more serious and combat-ready attires and looks, and more additions for male characters when it comes to post-reaper patch classes (reaper included).

    Edited once, last by Kaikanken ().

  • Bah..it's a fact that the game is elin-centric and aims to release as much cute/sexual content as possible when it comes to costumes...which totally doesn't fit a combat game where you need to defeat huge monsters...just look, almost all the winning loading screens feature elins as the main/only character, and that's just a reflection of what the game is being pushed towards (has been for years tbh)...the obnoxious dominance of little loli characters with barbie dresses or lingerie..might as well rename it Winx Online.

    I could even bear having this type of content, if it was balanced by more serious and combat-ready attires and looks, and more additions for male characters when it comes to post-reaper classes (gunner, ninja, valk).

    It is very common nowdays that "combat games"

    release costumes that have nothing to do with combat. It has been like this for years on most games I don't get why people still sound surprised in 2020.


    I'm not saying this is good or bad (I'd like having all kind of costumes not just the cute ones), I am just saying things are the way they are...

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  • release costumes that have nothing to do with combat. It has been like this for years on most games I don't get why people still sound surprised in 2020.

    It sounds more annoyed than surprised. For me personally is the concept of the game clear, I also [think that I] understand marketing behind this concept. But I also understand people, who see pedophilia in the game (well that's a fact, did you saw the little castanic girl-NPC and some 'sexually' elin costumes? I think we don't need to explain this part). But back to the fanarts. They are not bad and not really provoking, when you look to them with a healthy brain. But if you had a bad experience as a child (even if it was not really hard like only touching the… ok, I better stop this), you would see pedophilia in these pictures. Is it the artists or the victims fault? Neither one nor the other. It's a thin line between "it's fine" and "it's not".

  • But if you had a bad experience as a child (even if it was not really hard like only touching the… ok, I better stop this), you would see pedophilia in these pictures. Is it the artists or the victims fault? Neither one nor the other. It's a thin line between "it's fine" and "it's not".

    It's 2020 and people get offended by everything, but I think you shouldn't support this mindset of "feelings overvalue facts". It was kind of proven by senita456 that these images are not harmful and before they were shown ingame they were selected by Gameforge. I assume they have the legal knowledge to be sure the pictures are not sexualizing.


    If you still don't want to see these pictures you can help yourself. It took me less than one minute to find this.

    Go to your Tera directory, then go Client\S1Game\Config and open S1Engine.ini with some text editor (notepad, notepad++). Press ctrl+f and search DepthOfField. Change True to False, so the line will be DepthOfField=False instead of DepthOfField=True.
    Now your loading screens are just black with the loading bar.

  • Skaild, what I wanted to say is that there are many angles, that allow you to observe the situation from another, strange perspectives. All types of art (music, painting, literature, film, games etc.) have this problem, that they could not fit to everyone (and they don't have to). I just explained, why one person could react sharply or even aggressive to a thing, which other person will perceive as normal. It's happening everywhere (not only in art): in families, in education, in politic, in talks. And again: it's not a fault of the artists, but also not a fault of the watchers. People are strange, that's it.

  • There's exactly nothing wrong with these loading screens, hell, the game itself has much lewder context, if you think there's anything wrong with it, NEVER go to an actual beach, holy hell.

    Even if you think it's sexualized, get over it.

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  • Even though I'm not fond of Elins ( I do prefer Casta), I don't think those wallpapers are problematics.

    However, having the option to have the custom wallpaper should be given to players. What would be even greater would be to allow people to choose which custom wallpapers they allow or not.


    This last option is maybe a selfish desire as I hope I could get this one more often:



    (I love everything about it *_*)



    Well now concerning elin I think that another reason that they are so popular is also because they have some kind of hidden bonus of attack animations? So maybe they should work on this (and also on skins cause some of the elin-only designs for skins are MUCH better then the normal one.)


    Anyway, the artists who have made those wallpapers SHOULD NOT feel shame. Those are pretty safe and kinda cute. If you want to know what real pedo porn (manga) is you can always check Rule34 (this may broaden your horizon on what is ok and what is not).

    For people who are offended by this due to trauma, you should see a professional and get help to overcome it (cause those images are safe), there are website and also some organization which you can reach for free (numbers or name of those organization are different so you should check it online).

    For people who are offended by this due to "trend" or because they are part of some "cancel culture". I don't have much respect so I'm deeply sorry I can't help you. :elin17:

    For people who just can't stand elin, I understand, but it's not the end of the world. Just grab artists who have talent lock them in your basement and make them draw sexy popo or baraka. This way the next custom wallpapers event will have more diversity.

  • im agree with you mate, but those ppl whos say bad things agains people whos using elins or any thing, they need a medic for his head :/ and understand the game situation or likes of people.

    this is the person whos say bad things "yesterday".


    Apart: some player need stop spaming bad things (but correct, not at all) things to others players about the game situation and make to everyone stop playing tera when "that player" still speaking here when he is not playing here, he is playing shooter games. this is a tera forums for constructive players or whos want share his feedback, and no for inactive or negative players likes that player saying non helper stuffs.


    I like all those paints of others players with good art and all.