Remove Mythic materials from Corrupted Nest normal mode

    Been a while since I posted, but since I started the game again, I might as well drop a post, since this is pissing me majorly off.


    Title is basically self explanatory. Reasoning?

    In every other patch, the best in slot gear has ONLY been available from the hardest content available. Why is it suddenly changed? Why is it, that suddenly that best in slot materials are now available from an absolutely brain dead dungeon, which takes absolutely 0 fcking brain activity? CSNM is clearable by the most stupid people, and it's possible to do it without even looking at the fcking screen. Why is it, that you're allowed to be rewarded best in slot gear, for a dungeon which takes 0 effort at all? It's absolutely ridiculous and an insult towards players, who're striving for the top

    Change it. Right now. There's no point in doing CSHM at this rate. It's a joke, that you can get best in slot, from a dungeon which is easier than any other dungeons in the game.

    Either materials are removed from normal mode, or a new material is implemented for normal mode which can only enchant eternal gear and let hard mode drop the materials for regular annihilation/dark light gear.

    Regardless letting mythic materials drop from normal mode is an absolutely hideous and idiotic idea and should be changed.


    While we're at it, do please implement 40/80 entries of CSHM as well. It's stupid that every dungeon in the game allow for 40/80 entries a week, EXCEPT for the one dungeon which is actually fun and challenging to do.

    Wtb no downgrades on gear, tyvm.

    Too late for that change.

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

    I have a bad feeling about this. Like they're pushing everyone to +15 mythic gear to release new gear soon to milk all the whales like they always did in the past.

    1. to late for that.

    2. the game is becoming more casual and new people friendly.

    3. in my opinion the situation of the mats in csnm is good since not everyone wants to do the hardest dungeon but still people want it for the rest of the dungeons.

    4.making +15 is hard enough and not everyone can do it, and you want to take another small boost? for real?

    5.I don't find cshm fun, especially if you need to look for random people and lfg, so this dungeon being optional is good idea.

    I'd say the reasoning behind that would be our very feedback from the community that wished for an endgame dungeon beyond the endgame dungeon for fame and costumes and shit... we got what we asked for, lol

    i guess, people won't ever be happy...

    before this patch -> people complain that they can't reach the best gear ingame without spending huge amounts of RL money


    now -> people complaining that it's too easy to get that gear

    at least you have to run dungeons for it?


    there were times where you could get parts for that gear from GG or from the Sun event, so yeah

    can't make everyone happy :elin15:


    i prefer this way tbh, so i can finally play alts again :elin17:

    Quote from Trappiez

    CSNM is clearable by the most stupid people,

    i want to say watch ur Mouth kid and don't be scared to get out dped from stupid people even after knowing that you were fishbotting on stream


    calm ur titties and show respect because these stupid people are humans and players to


    kthxbye

    Quote from Unknown.z

    i want to say watch ur Mouth kid and don't be scared to get out dped from stupid people even after knowing that you were fishbotting on stream


    calm ur titties and show respect because these stupid people are humans and players to


    kthxbye

    can't except less from abusers/exploiters .. no matter what they get, they want more.

    won't be surprised if he is doing most dungeons with proxy guide.

    the fck?



    why? why would you want ot make it even more annoying for the rest of us just because your in your highhorse?+ 15 is enough bs as it is, why would you want o make another wall at this point(ppl had time ot get their gear) considering most parties gonig for CSHM at this point wont even look at you if you dont have it.


    and this is ignoring the materials are in the shop anyway..so your request only fcks over legitimate players and grinders



    your whole statement in this point is remarkbly disprectfull to the rest of the players that w/e reason cant or arent interested in that specific run.




    (callnig it now that what ill write after this gets moderated out)

    (maybe one shoudl try to play it legit for once to see how it really is, insteaf of relying on " assitance", and sponsoring programs)

    He is right though. Yes, +15 is a pain ita, but i mean, not every trap/casual should be able to get top gear

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

    Quote from Zunako

    He is right though. Yes, +15 is a pain ita, but i mean, not every trap/casual should be able to get top gear

    and what right do you have to decide that for them?



    its that sort of cringy mentality that maks ppl shy away from bothering with the game and why any sort of competitiveness is laughable: "player earned their way ot some decent gear, some jackhole goes aronud saying they didnt deserve it...and goes out of their way to ensure they cant get any runs...fun.."

    Quote from Zunako

    He is right though. Yes, +15 is a pain ita, but i mean, not every trap/casual should be able to get top gear

    This point of view of "having top gear says that you are X" in the way that you think of it is wrong, since that X just says that you got the gear in some ways(even by buying) so having gear doesn't say anything, and people know exactly who has gear but is trap or casual.

    If to take it to the extreme it would be amazing if everyone will have equalized gear in PVE, in that way people won't think that if they got gear they are superior, and everyone would play for fun(aka combat, costumes, mounts etc). That constant gear grind is just allowing the developers to not make new content or use their brain cells and its pathetic. Always trying to hide the lack of content with new gear system or some other scheme..


    P.S: We shouldn't take seriously what Trappiez says either way since he thinks that he is special meanwhile he is average player that getting supported by tools(even then he is average damage dealer), many of people here playing longer than him and better, and actually know what they talking about.

    Well. First off, to keep this to the point:


    I believe that +15 is stupid as well. I won't disagree with anyone who says that. It's stupid and it should be equalized and a much more linear, straight progression should be implemented. Just removing downgrades would make a huge difference to this game. Nothing there, I think it's stupid and locking that kind of best in slot behind a p2w wall is absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't have been implemented to begin with.


    Secondly, I believe that it's only right, that best in slot gear is locked behind a dungeon clear wall. I agree, it sucks if you're a new player and don't have anyone to play with, but then you go out there and make an effort to get into parties. My point here isn't, "Just let new players and inexperienced never have the chance of getting best in slot", my point is that you should only be rewarded best in slot from the hardest content available.

    It's like this in virtually ANY mmorpg. Literally any. The world's most famous mmorpg, World of Warcraft, will NOT allow you to have absolutely best in slot gear, UNLESS you're able to clear Mythic 25 man raids. That's how it should be, no one should have access to best in slot gear, by doing mediocre dungeons.


    Thirdly, it has ALWAYS been a Tera point, that if you want to have best in slot gear, you will have to clear the hardest content. There's NO reason to change that now.


    Fourth, I think it's true that not every player should be allowed to have best in slot gear. Much in coherence with my second point, I think it's only fair that the best gear should only be allowed to the players who are willing to put the time and effort into farming for their gear. That being said, as I stated in my first point, the current system in terms of enchanting is ridiculous. However, I think it's more than fair that gear like Mythic should be locked behind a dungeon content wall, since it's a 100% upgrade chance.


    Fifth, idk what adidtnt's problem is with me, but you clearly dislike me for the player I am. However insulting me on a personal level and saying I'm nothing more than a cheater won't really further your argumentation. Rather it's just looking like you're being childish and throwing a fit, 'cause you have a personal issue.

    I have done top tier content without any tools to help me for a long time, my streams have been a proof of that for quite a while. Most top tier players recognize me as a rather capable player. Just because you dislike me on a personal level, doesn't make you more "right" than me. If you want to win an argument, do so by stating actual facts and objective observations.

    Wtb no downgrades on gear, tyvm.

    Quote from Trappiez

    you should only be rewarded best in slot from the hardest content available.

    Strongly disagree, it's much better if it's split up like it is/was done, gvh/ df for accs. FA for brooch etc

    So players get well rounded once they try to gear up no matter in which point of time they get into the game.


    I agree that Kelsaik nm is too easy though and should at least be strapped of one type of mats if not both for mythic

    Trappiez i arguably went out of line, my bad and i will apologize for that(althought it doesnt detract from my annoyance that the most vocal groups in this game are really shady otherwise, this is not personal but it is way too common to not take note of)


    but your whole point about locking the materials to the Hard mode defeats itself under one simple fact: you can buy these mats off the TERA SHOP, thru trade chests, which entirely defeats the purpose of the lockout you are suggesting. in this knowledge i strongly disagree with such a lockout since the only players that would gain from it are the ones that have a hand in the secondary market for these items, while everyone else that doesnt wantto "P2W" for their gear find themsvels doing menial content since from experience i find that unless you have a name ppl generally wont take you in the runs you need due to gear creep and the current player mentality being too fickle to push thru hard content and waste time on it.

    nothing personal, everyone knows you got banned from exploiting on stream. if you did it once, you will do again, since nothing stopped you in the 1st place. you are not the only one, you are just example of the public.

    how do you reach item level 480 to enter CSH? You need your gear to be at least full +12 to do that. And with the amazing enchantment system that can be quite the adventure. Mythical is mythical nothing too grand or special. you were able to get HO +2 without Bahhar too. Mallets were only needed for +3.


    The same can be applied for the current gear. But the failed enchantment system won't allow that so easily.

    I will not blame your lack of knowledge on stupid player and new player but I will try to explain it plainly what you say about people having "A EASY TIME" gearing to mythical is also a myth.


    •So let's begin by this: CSNM is clearable by the most stupid people, and it's possible to do it without even looking at the fcking screen.


    Well I dunno which CSNM to be able to play it without looking at the screen during the "fear / rage" mechanic but I would love to play the same game :D

    Then "the most stupid people": are you reffering to new players ? Like those who recently came and don't know much about the game ? Then I assure you they can't :D. Yesterday I was in a matchmaking party for velik sanctuary with my new alt (a tank cause GOD I HATE W8TING 30MIN to go into AQ/GVHM etc via matchmaking). Well I was with a new player (a healer) and 4 people who were kind of begginner (lack of skills). 40 min for this dungeon and at the end I explained to the healer where he could find advices on how to play his class and before each boss I explained the mech. Nevertheless, there were a lot of death.

    SO if by stupid people you are reffering to new player, even if they were mythical +15 they could not do it cause they lack the skill to do it.


    Now the second category of the so called "stupid people" I name the people who have skills but 0 cheat (cause yeah with cheats every dg is easy, well maybe not every dg because sometimes the cheats can't keep up with the pace the boss is attacking). I daresay that this category of stupid people was lagging behind at the time people were training for CSNM then they did not experiment the mech. Only looking at tutorial will not help as experience is also necessary. Well those stupid people are NOT accepted in party (y) except if they have friends or connexion which make them only have the solution to use the matchmaking option (remember my point about making an alt lancer?). This means that those stupid people will have to wait for a benevolant party to accept them or create their own parties of fellow stupid people (and maybe some kind player who will waste their times).



    Thus, your point about "the most stupid people can do it" is invalid. People with a bit of skill and a regular party have done it and do it easy peasy is more accurate. But even so it take times to learn mech, or have someone who is able to call for the other.



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    •Now the part about " best in slot gear has ONLY been available from the hardest content available."


    Again I disagree (but at the same time will propose something else).

    I disagree because making it this way is plainly stupid as

    1) some people mentionned it but CASHHH SHOOOPPP (do you want this game to be classified as P2W or P2F?), don't you find it stupid that people who grind CSNM for their gear will feel excluded when people who do CSHM exclude them cause they are not geared up?

    2)as mentionned before the "stupid" people will not get to down CSNM anytime soon (I helped a guild as a healer for AQ yesterday night too and they were far from killing the boss easyly).

    3) For me the hardest dg should not reward gear but prestige



    Then what do I mean by prestige ? It can be a shiny title, a skin, a mount. Anyway something useless but which show to the world that the player has some skill (remember bahaar statue?) . If you want to make it elitist you can ask that those rewards will only be up for the time this dg is the hardest one (making it a "rare loot" instead of having people with Bahaar's balls when the dungeon is downgraded). Thus instead of focusing on "gear for the hardest dg" they should introduce something similar to the reward they will give for the pvp event. THIS would be rewarding and make the latest dg "worth it" even more with the limited number of entry one have.

    I do not force you to agree with me on it. But if gearing is your high end content dream I find it a bit sad.


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    By the way I also agree with some people that downgrade should be banished, I did not like it when it was the case for VM / pvp gear so I will not like it anytime soon xD

    And it's true that they should reintroduce content, even the flying castle could be a good idea to have a "healthy competition" both in pve and in pvp (cause civil unrest is meeeehhhhhhh).

    they should also reup the content of fame rewards in the different factions (new exclusive skin a flying mount etc) but this talk is for another time ~~



    Finaly, thank you for your rage but if next time you post something you could be a lil bit more aware of the fact that insulting new players is not a good idea, it would be quite good. It does not give a good image of the community (even if you probably don't mind) but so you know now :elin34:



    ps: edited to correct some errors '^' (Ima a grammar nazi)

    Edited 2 times, last by Liaomasis ().

    A true hero who actually cared to explain. Good job.

    Now that we cleared that point, mod can close this useless thread.

    Quote from Liaomasis

    3) For me the hardest dg should not reward gear but prestige

    Totally agree wit that, I think if you do the hardest dungeon to get gear, there is nothing else to do than just wait for new content. Like it was in so many contents before. Once you have the gear there is no reason anymore to do the dungeon aside from fun, but many people just stop right there when equipment is finished.