Still the same problem as always - P2W Consumables

    Quote from Zunako

    Dude, no offense, but like i said in my first posts in this threads.... I don`t like seal, i wish this and other stuff like icewhisper will be removed from ranked. But it is here right now, i have it., so i use it. Btw, i got these seals from a time, where i was in Clan der Schattenwölfe... Do you really think i cashed there intentionally, to use them for ranked? xD


    And still. I didn`t see any threads about icewhisper in the past. I only saw it, at the point poeple used it against your party, and got your #1 stolen :^)

    i like this sort of statement:


    "i'm not X , but ..."


    whatever is front of that but is often worthless because its the exact opposite of X, and the statement as a whole just show that the person doesnt actually think that they say they do.(ie: i'm not Racist but...)

    Quote from Lily

    I actually wrote a ticket regarding this last week and got told there are no plans yet about removing special consumables from leaderboards. my feedback got forwarded and i could have open a forum post to discuss about this with the community managers.

    why would they be encouraged ot remove them from the leaderboard when the shop still has the war cry chest?

    Quote from Zunako

    Everryone who was even close to get #1, knew about icewhisper bug.

    I'm not gonna openly talk about bugs - no matter how many know or don't know about it.

    Quote from Zunako

    This will also be my last message in this thread, since you`re only trying to insult people, for using a bufffood, that they got from events.

    You deliberately only said "from events" which is wrong. It's an Cash-Shop-Event and it's impossible to get that many seals without paying for them. If you can't see a difference there then I have to admit that you're pretty delusional.


    Quote from Zunako

    And saying, no offense, but in the same sentence "i have no respect" doesn't match.

    Already explained that more than once. I don't have anything against you or your group personally but as a PLAYER (competitive gaming, you know?) I don't respect people that use Seal to achieve something they could not do without it. If you guys would be able to get Rank 1 fair and square, congratz well deserved but thats sadly not the case. Don't really feel like repeating it again and again to be honest.


    Quote from Zunako

    And again, i find it so funny that you cry about people using a bufffood, while poeple obvsly exploited last season. Didn't read anything about that last season... hmm, strange


    Simple, it didn't affect me. I'm not gonna create a new thread for every single problem that exists in Tera. You're more than capable of creating your own Threads if something like that happens again - don't think that I'm forced to talk about everything here (especially cuz Coma's are pointless anyway but for your information - a ton of people actually did report Stop.Seal to the Support and well they're supposed to handle stuff like that cuz crying about Ninja/Gunner Exploits on Forums doesnt solve anything). Also, It's pretty fking obvious that Exploits should not be allowed in Tera. I hope that people are more than aware of that fact without me having to talk about it every single time something like that happens. :elin15:

    Done.

    The easiest thing: just ask Dont.seal to do this every season :elin2:


    +1 for removing every event item from leaderboard

    (ktera did this aswell, just copy paste item ID in blacklist and done. same thing like the op event items)

    OwO what is this... :'3

    Quote from tobtheking2

    If you bothered to read first Post - Combat is included on the list of items that should be disabled aswell but I'm really sorry that I dont want to write every single existing consumables every time I push this post. Also considering that like 99% of the existing Seals were p2w only and there are still a ton of caps left to buy on Broker (Not saying that cap should not get removed from Leaderboards) but at least everyone is still able to obtain & use caps :^) So if you're really gonna compare cap or even strong cane/bravery to Seal then yeah....interesting.



    Also - I still have one Seal in my Bank from the first ABC Event. (One and only Seal i ever had). If I was that desperate for Rank 1 like certain other people then I'd be able to use it myself.

    My point wasn't about that you complain about seal, but that you are using said items that you want to have removed (CAP) yourself. If you have the opportunity to use these and are "forced" to do so because you want to be competitive, then use these items like everyone else, or don't use them at all.

    Saying that exploit #1 is worse than exploit #2 and you still use #2 to have to chance to be competitive is what I call hypocrit.


    A vegan debate shouldn't be led by someone who is eating meat and isn't fully behind what he is demanding.

    Quote from Skaild

    My point wasn't about that you complain about seal, but that you are using said items that you want to have removed (CAP) yourself. If you have the opportunity to use these and are "forced" to do so because you want to be competitive, then use these items like everyone else, or don't use them at all.

    Saying that exploit #1 is worse than exploit #2 and you still use #2 to have to chance to be competitive is what I call hypocrit.


    A vegan debate shouldn't be led by someone who is eating meat and isn't fully behind what he is demanding.


    Dont have much to add, thats your opinion but most of the players left in this game will disagree with your statement - myself included.


    Strong Canephora/Bravery + Combat are not as bad as Seal is - they had a ton of ingame sources and are still tradeable/buyable ingame - while Seal isn't obtainable in any way anymore. Seal is (for most people, maybe not you for some reason but w/e) obviously worse but like I already mentioned ALL consumables should be excluded.


    If you really think that all of these consumables are 100% the same thing and that there is absolutely no difference (even ignoring the previous/current sources and trade-ability of certain consumables) then yes from your point of view you could call me an hypocrite. But at least in my opinion that's a bit narrow minded.


    (Just wanna add something - don't mind it too much but why would you only call me out for being a hypocrit? Considering that Zunako himself commented on this thread aswell that Seal & Ice Whisper should be disabled while he used both to get Rank 1? At least make it fair and call out everyone - not just one person.)

    Done.

    Let me summerize so that GF and BHS can see what most ppl want/ dont Want:

    Included in Rankings:

    -Nostrum: Everybody can access it

    -All Sorts of Noctenium: Everybody can access it

    -Canephora: Everybody can access it via Fish Tokens

    -Bravery: Everybody can access it

    -All Bufffood available via Eleon Tokens: Everybody can access it

    -All Bufffood available by Crafting and other Ingame Sources (e.g. Bamarama and co.): Everybody can access it

    -All Health/ Mp potions: 4 obvious Reasons

    Exclude from Rankings:

    The Rest

    If I forgot something, you are welcome to add More Bufffood with Reason to be Included/Excluded below this List

    Considering that Russian Players get added to the EU-Server and according to the FAQ we can actually play with them through Dungeon Servers - do they keep their Russian-Consumables like "Drop of Dare Devil" and "Drop of Destruction"? These two consumables are completly unbalanced and shouldn't even be in the game to begin with but since EU People are able to run together with Russians - these consumables should definitely be removed (just like Seal & Momento etc for EU Players) cuz lets be honest - how dumb would it be if two servers on the same region being able to run together have different consumables like what the hell? xD


    This "Merge" of two regions is the perfect time to finally REMOVE ALL regional consumables that don't exist outside of Korea.

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    Edited once, last by tobtheking2 ().

    Quote from tobtheking2

    Considering that Russian Players get added to the EU-Server and according to the FAQ we can actually play with them through Dungeon Servers - do they keep their Russian-Consumables like "Drop of Dare Devil" and "Drop of Destruction"? These two consumables are completly unbalanced and shouldn't even be in the game to begin with but since EU People are able to run together with Russians - these consumables should definitely be removed (just like Seal & Momento etc for EU Players) cuz lets be honest - how dumb would it be if two servers on the same region being able to run together have different consumables like what the hell? xD


    This "Merge" of two regions is the perfect time to finally REMOVE ALL regional consumables that don't exist outside of Korea.

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    Hello,


    as its stated in the FAQ all items will be transferred unless they are temporary items. The Russian specific items, in this case the consumables, should be transferred as well.

    Quote from Melione

    Hello,


    as its stated in the FAQ all items will be transferred unless they are temporary items. The Russian specific items, in this case the consumables, should be transferred as well.


    And why wouldn't you just finally (after getting Feedback abot that specific change for like more than three years now) remove all consumables considering that two servers on the same region are gonna have to deal with having different consumables? Am I really the only one here to see a problem with that? :elin15:

    Done.

    wait the f?


    so the folks that are coming from the RU side of the game will bring in a bunch of grossly overpowered consumables with them?---



    and we have to share the same dungeon server(meaning its possible ot run into them in IM+ well share some of the ladders)?



    that sounds like its gonna be yet another reason any sort of leaderboard is still a joke.(not to mention afaik i have on idea if those things can be traded, if they are then the broker is fcked too)


    (with love: bite me zancara)

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    For us Europeans it won't be that bad cuz we already have worse consumables (meaning Seal & the rest) but for the region as a whole it's just dumb to have different exclusive consumables on different servers even though they can all play together.

    Done.

    Melione All fun aside, please remove stuff like seal, the russian stuff and co... like it`s a ranked, it should be about playing with the best party, and having the best runs. I used Seal on my own, and got a statue, and it is a joke xD 2 seasons ago, someone used exploits to get a solo statue this season we had 2 seal archers, to get it. I can understand everyone who is mad about that xD if you don`t really care about fair ranked, than remove the whole leaderboard.

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

    Quote from Buschfunker

    I bet server crash after the first IM, cause europe server cant deal with code of russian bufffood. Any bets against?

    Dont worry, those items are in our client anyway c:


    Quote from Melione

    Hello,


    as its stated in the FAQ all items will be transferred unless they are temporary items. The Russian specific items, in this case the consumables, should be transferred as well.

    alright, time to ask RU people to snipe title on every server :^)

    OwO what is this... :'3