Still the same problem as always - P2W Consumables


  • Source Patchnotes of v90 ---> Patch Notes 90 – Stormy Seas



    threea  Aureli  Galeas

    You guys ignored my last thread from 2 months ago (and all the other threads in the past) about this topic but with having this above changes in mind - can you guys finally request bluehole a leaderboard change for OUR region? In Korea all event/shop-only consumables are DISABLED from Leaderboards for like two years already so it can not be that hard to do the same in Europe, right? It legit takes like maybe 10 minutes to blacklist all p2w/event-only consumables in relevant leaderboard-dungeons and at least ONE of the many problems affecting leaderboards would instantly be fixed.


    Also for the usual people planning to type "Leaderboard is stupid anyway" yes it definitely is but thats at least the easiest problem to somewhat fix. There are many other problems but sadly most of them aren't fix-able (not anymore).

    Done.

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  • And finally fix icewhisper and remove seal (or the cooldown effect from it)

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

  • Also for the usual people planning to type "Leaderboards is stupid anyway" yes it definitely is but thats at least the easiest problem to somewhat fix. There are many other problems but sadly most of them aren't fix-able (not anymore).

    Leaderboards are* stupid anyway.

    or

    Leaderboard* is stupid anyway.

    but yes, I'm against Gameforge as well.

  • the leaderboards ARE a joke anyway


    the p2w consumable runs are the least of the problem whe nyou have runs with clearly exploied times in there or with impossible party comps.



    they cna surely fix it for the consumables tho, since 3rd parties appliations already do this, by segregating runs if they pick up on any of these buffs

  • I actually wrote a ticket regarding this last week and got told there are no plans yet about removing special consumables from leaderboards. my feedback got forwarded and i could have open a forum post to discuss about this with the community managers.


    There are pretty much 2 solutions to this problem right now:


    - block the use of these consums in leaderboard dungs same way as they are blocked in pvp battlegrounds

    - blacklist them so that runs where these consumables are used dont get registred into leaderboards


    I believe 2nd option is reasonable for the ppl that have leftover of these so that they can use them for their own sake.


    Also updating the rewards would be nice since right now an infinity mask is just 15k gold

  • Fix that seal and icewhisper :^)))))

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

  • Event-Soup Items get removed upon on entering Leaderboards Dungeons.


    Why is this not the case for all the REMOVED p2w consumables? Why can't you just add the mentioned items to the same blacklist like the event items? After probably three or four years of community feedback.

    Done.

  • tobtheking2 So you cry about people using Seal, but you DON`T cry about people that abuse exploits, like last season, or about your icewhisper friends? xd


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    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

  • Is it because you don't have seal yourself? Or why should CAP still be allowed considering you don't get it anywhere from. If you use such stuff yourself you shouldn't complain about it, that's kind of hypocrit, don't you think so tobtheking2

  • tobtheking2 So you cry about people using Seal, but you DON`T cry about people that abuse exploits, like last season, or about your icewhisper friends? xd


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    Then explain to me what kind of exploits? If you're talking about Stop.Seal then ye sucks for you but that thread isn't about exploits :^) Make your own then.
    And I really don't remember that I started running with Ice Whisper Sorcs? :/

    Is it because you don't have seal yourself? Or why should CAP still be allowed considering you don't get it anywhere from. If you use such stuff yourself you shouldn't complain about it, that's kind of hypocrit, don't you think so tobtheking2

    If you bothered to read first Post - Combat is included on the list of items that should be disabled aswell but I'm really sorry that I dont want to write every single existing consumables every time I push this post. :elin15: Also considering that like 99% of the existing Seals were p2w only and there are still a ton of caps left to buy on Broker (Not saying that cap should not get removed from Leaderboards) but at least everyone is still able to obtain & use caps :^) So if you're really gonna compare cap or even strong cane/bravery to Seal then yeah....interesting. :/



    Also - I still have one Seal in my Bank from the first ABC Event. (One and only Seal i ever had). If I was that desperate for Rank 1 like certain other people then I'd be able to use it myself. :elin21:

    Done.

  • Then explain to me what kind of exploits? If you're talking about Stop.Seal then ye sucks for you but that thread isn't about exploits :^) Make your own then.

    Your arguments are kinda weak. Use your seal than.

    Then explain to me what kind of exploits? If you're talking about Stop.Seal then ye sucks for you but that tIf I was that desperate for Rank 1 like certain other people then I'd be able to use it myself. :elin21:

    hm... i guess you`re right. Thank got you don`t care about Rank 1.

    Oh, what is this thread, and your login message... wait... let me think... oh, you CARE about #1? Get your exploits than, and use it, like you said to me.


    This will also be my last message in this thread, since you`re only trying to insult people, for using a bufffood, that they got from events.

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

  • I see some mega mongs here still thinking whisper haven't fixed yet. It did. Also yeah, just blacklist CA and every other "event" consumable from leaderboards please, so we wouldn't see these mongs anywhere to be seen.

  • Your arguments are kinda weak. Use your seal than.

    hm... i guess you`re right. Thank got you don`t care about Rank 1.

    Oh, what is this thread, and your login message... wait... let me think... oh, you CARE about #1? Get your exploits than, and use it, like you said to me.


    This will also be my last message in this thread, since you`re only trying to insult people, for using a bufffood, that they got from events.


    Not sure where I insulted anyone but alright buddy.


    1.) I don't care enough about rank 1 to use Seal myself but I certainly have enough humour to laugh and meme about the people that can't do it without Seal. :elin21:
    2.) "get your exploits then" are you a bit dense or what are you even trying to say? :elin15:

    3.) And "for using a buff-food, that they got from events." You mean cashing a few hundreds of Euros during ABC Events? :elin2: Certainly wouldn't call that an "event" but sure :^)


    Pretty interesing how you're trying to find excuses and blame others though. Just saying, you were one of the people who commented on this thread saying that "Seal should be disabled" but you're the one that used it in the end. :elin16:


    (Also just saying, if you didn't notice it yet - I never flamed you (or your group) directly/personally because it's Gameforges Fault for not disabling these consumables but I'm certainly more than allowed to meme about a group that is forced to use Seal to achieve their goal. Not even an insult, just the truth - not my problem if you don't like that statement.)

    Done.

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  • hm... i guess you`re right. Thank got you don`t care about Rank 1.

    Oh, what is this thread, and your login message... wait... let me think... oh, you CARE about #1? Get your exploits than, and use it, like you said to me.


    Wait wait, did you just copy the HALF of one sentence at the top of the text talking about exploits and combined it with the second HALF of ANOTHER sentence at the bottom of my text that is about "If I was that desperate I would use Seal myself"



    My first sentence :

    "Then explain to me what kind of exploits? If you're talking about Stop.Seal then ye sucks for you but that thread isn't about exploits :^) Make your own then."


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    My second sentence:
    " Also - I still have one Seal in my Bank from the first ABC Event. (One and only Seal i ever had). If I was that desperate for Rank 1 like certain other people then I'd be able to use it myself."


    = "Get your exploits than and use it like you said" ???? :D^^


    Saying that my arguments are weak while you're pulling non existing arguments out of your ass, gratz. :thumbup:

    Done.

  • Dude, no offense, but like i said in my first posts in this threads.... I don`t like seal, i wish this and other stuff like icewhisper will be removed from ranked. But it is here right now, i have it., so i use it. Btw, i got these seals from a time, where i was in Clan der Schattenwölfe... Do you really think i cashed there intentionally, to use them for ranked? xD


    And still. I didn`t see any threads about icewhisper in the past. I only saw it, at the point poeple used it against your party, and got your #1 stolen :^)

    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...

  • Dude, no offense, but like i said in my first posts in this threads.... I don`t like seal, i wish this and other stuff like icewhisper will be removed from ranked. But it is here right now, i have it., so i use it. Btw, i got these seals from a time, where i was in Clan der Schattenwölfe... Do you really think i cashed there intentionally, to use them for ranked? xD


    And still. I didn`t see any threads about icewhisper in the past. I only saw it, at the point poeple used it against your party, and got your #1 stolen :^)


    Like I said, no personal offense either but I have no respect as a player for someone that needs to use Seal & Ice Whisper to beat others cuz they can't do it without that.
    I don't care where you get the Seals from and why you have them but the main source was p2w'ing for ABC event so don't try to argue with "got them from an event" when its literally the most known Cash-Shop-Event in the whole game. It's your money, feel free to use it on whatever you want but don't try to lie about it only being an ingame event.


    That has one single reason - people back then weren't that desperate on Yurian at least to use Seal & other consumables for their advantage. The bug was known before and even reported to the Support-Team by myself :) but I only started making feedback threads because people started abusing them. Seems pretty obvious, no? :/ Wasn't a problem before so why would I bother opening threads about Ice Whisper specifially - especially when a ton of people didn't even know that this bug exists. (Would be pretty stupid to tell everyone about a bug that I already reported and want to get fixed as soon as possible)



    Also Old Thread about Consumables made by me
    ------> Removing Seal/Cap/Momento from Rankings <----

    I'm not 100% sure when Ice Whisper was added into the game but as you can see - I'm complaining about any kind of p2w or event-only consumables for 2-3 years now :^)

    Done.

  • Everryone who was even close to get #1, knew about icewhisper bug.

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    nothing to say more about that, sry, but just read my stuff, think about it again. I never wrote that it was from an ingame event. And saying, no offense, but in the same sentence "i have no respect" doesn't match.


    And again, i find it so funny that you cry about people using a bufffood, while poeple obvsly exploited last season. Didn't read anything about that last season... hmm, strange


    I tried so hard, and got so far... but in the end, it doesn't even matter...