GameForge when you will do something about PROXY & HACK in your game ?

Mate you don't even know what proxy does, you just base your information on random comment/video/what people say, and you're talking about being taken seriously?

Also ping was a perfectly fine choice of word, do you even know what ping means or you actually think its "just" a ms command?

I look like a pve player, yeah so what? Tera PvP died a long long time ago.
Also FIY, the biggest exploiter this game has is/was a freaking PvP player lul, you know the one that used to ruin all your CU/VO, while being followed by our dear ex-gm Olyn.
But yeah, not too sure why you're mentionning PvE vs PvP, guess that's the classic PvPer argument "lul u pver trash".
Oh and now people who defend Proxy or have a different opinion (because that's what this is, my opinion is different) should be banned? Based on what?

If anything YOU should be banned for posting/spreading information and link about the proxy.

It's because of crying PvE carebears in Kr why the PvP was dumped in Tera.

tfw "you dont even know what proxy does stop QQ lol"

I'll tell you what it does btw: It gives advantages to the user that normal players can't replicate without it. It's literally the same kind of garbage as aimbotting/wallhacking in Counter Strike.

Or is this not true?

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If anything YOU should be banned for posting/spreading information and link about the proxy.

I'm using proxy and should not get banned.
You on the other hand that are providing information about proxy, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE BANNED

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There are so many solutions synonymous good solutions here in the forum or Google and there Proxy is definitely not there.

And other games and hacks do not interest me and they can do what they want.

Tera has extensively said proxy etc are prohibited.

And without pay2win, the game Tera would not exist.

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tfw "you dont even know what proxy does stop QQ lol"

I'll tell you what it does btw: It gives advantages to the user that normal players can't replicate without it. It's literally the same kind of garbage as aimbotting/wallhacking in Counter Strike.

Or is this not true?

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I actually never said to "stop QQ", I was replying to benox who keeps on trying to be a smart-ass with his replies, such as "use the right term and we'll take you seriously" (while himself not having a clue what half the list he posted does and if it actually does such). You can QQ as much as you want about it, just like I can post whatever the fk I want about it aswell.

It does give an advantage, note that, when I talk or "defend" if you wish, about proxy, I'm talking about skill prediction & what I consider pure QoL (such as skip-cutscene, instant-souldbind, and maybe a few other that I cant think of). It goes without saying that memeslash, teleport , dragon passive and some other should be dealt with. I don't think anyone is actually arguing about this tho?

Now everyone is entitled to theirs opinion, but are you really comparing WH & aimbot in CS with proxy? Specify which modules please, and if you consider all modules to be cheat/garbage just like an aimbot/wh in CS, then surely you must think the same of the DPS meter am I right?

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I'm using proxy and should not get banned. You on the other hand that are providing information about proxy, YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE BANNED

oh boy, it's like some players trying to compete with gameforge, hey morons, don't you know that gameforge is retard champ since 2012 ?

Funny how you missed the whole point tho. First of all I was talking in general, not in my case, and again, purely responding to ONE post. And most importantly, if you paid attention he said "Defender of proxy" not "proxy user". Who said anything about "I'm using it and shouldnt be banned for it" in what you quoted?

So are you telling me that someone posting "proxy is ok" should get banned, yet someone actually linking modules and information about it shouldn't? interesting.

edit: What's up with people on this forum quoting everything out of context and acting like smart-ass afterward?

The healers heal automatically. The tanks block automatically. Even on YouTube, I've seen that you can manually set your mana and your life manually.

@jinh Well 2+ people in this thread already used the same "you guys just complain and dont even know how proxy works" argument, so it's just another one of those posts, I guess.

Anyway you said you are a PvE player, is it possible you are using Skill prediction to boost your DPS scores in party chat/moongourd? You said you have 50 ms, that's around what I used to play with on archer, which is probably more ping reliant than gunner, and it was completely playable (even had #1 on moongourd with that ping); not warranting any Skill prediction modules.
PvE players (= Moongourd fanatics since DPS meter exists) consider SP to be unfair, because you'll have better DPS than the ones not using SP.

PvP players have similar modules around, for example mount in combat (Broken as fúck in BGs I imagine), autonostrum (You no longer have to pay attention to REGRESSION/plague), short/long distance teleports, and so on, all of which are basically unfair. These are the PvP equivalent of "Skill prediction" in unfairness.

I gave CS as a popular and well known example, as scripts and hacks exist there too (Although Aimbot and Wallhack are indeed more impactful, you can't claim that your listed modules are not harmful *because* worse exists: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as ), and the users are frequently banned and denounced by the community, something that doesn't happen in Tera sadly.

Feel free to quote any sentence from my posts, they usually make sense without context too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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@jinh Well 2+ people in this thread already used the same "you guys just complain and dont even know how proxy works" argument, so it's just another one of those posts, I guess.

Anyway you said you are a PvE player, is it possible you are using Skill prediction to boost your DPS scores in party chat/moongourd? You said you have 50 ms, that's around what I used to play with on archer, which is probably more ping reliant than gunner, and it was completely playable (even had #1 on moongourd with that ping); not warranting any Skill prediction modules.
PvE players (= Moongourd fanatics since DPS meter exists) consider SP to be unfair, because you'll have better DPS than the ones not using SP.

PvP players have similar modules around, for example mount in combat (Broken as fúck in BGs I imagine), autonostrum (You no longer have to pay attention to REGRESSION/plague), short/long distance teleports, and so on, all of which are basically unfair. These are the PvP equivalent of "Skill prediction" in unfairness.

I gave CS as a popular and well known example, as scripts and hacks exist there too (Although Aimbot and Wallhack are indeed more impactful, you can't claim that your listed modules are not harmful *because* worse exists: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as ), and the users are frequently banned and denounced by the community, something that doesn't happen in Tera sadly.

Feel free to quote any sentence from my posts, they usually make sense without context too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Not really as I always played in a full static and none of us uploaded to moongourd because there's no point parsing anything when some class are more OP than other, being 1st as X class is also irrelevant depending on the party comp. If I was (as I'm not actually playing atm) using it, it was for my own enjoyment, you mentionned archer, I went back to archer (used to main during VM1 when it wasn't ping dependant), started again a bit before the revamp, had no SP and 50-70ms, a few months later I tried SP and the difference was just too big, my RF was complete trash with 50ms no one denies that you cannot do good dps with such ms tho, I couldn't care less if someone is doing top dmg or not, I haven't used the meter since VM7 I think. (just like I noticed how my burst fire with 18ms and 70ms was significantly different, and it just made me not like the class anymore).

While PvE player using SP will have a better dps, whoever lives closer to the server or has good hardware will have better dps than someone living in spain playing on 15fps. So what then?

As for the PvP aspect, you're talking about exploity module, which I don't think anyone disagree about really? As for auto-nostrum, I mean as I already explained before, most gear software allow you to double bind, so one could easily bind nostrum to one or multiples keys you are pressing constantly. I actually have such for nostrum & mp pots (for tank), and therefor my nostrum is on all the time. Meaning whoever doesnt have such software is already at a disadvantage, or they could simply download any macro program / autohotkey and do the exact same if not a tons more.
Much like one would remove the blood splatter in csgo while pressing shoot or forward or whatever key you want.

Please let me know how skip-cutscene or instant-soulbound or even instant auto-loot is harmful in any way?

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The fact that you speak about something, doesnt mean you know what you're talking about tho. See, you mention a bunch of modules in your list, yet some can easily be achieved without proxy, just like auto nostrum as I stated multiples times, so what then?

ping, since you want to quote wikipedia lol, let me quote the first result that show up when I google "what is ping"
"The ping is the reaction time of your connection–how fast you get a response after you've sent out a request. A fast ping means a more responsive connection, especially in applications where timing is everything (like video games). Ping is measured in milliseconds (ms)."

Not really sure what your moongourd post is about, never said anything about your ingame skill afaik lol.

But yeah I don't PVP so I wouldnt know how it affect PvP, but afaik you're not purely talking about PvP, I mean how is broker everywhere or even unlimited flight PvP related.

lol its so ironic* that you post this exact thread about this Tera PvP tournamenent, anyway CS 1.6 died a long time ago, yet people are still playing, point is, Tera PvP nowadays is irrelevant, like seriously even thread you posted, they had to include rules such as no etchings, no X class, no this, no that.And now to the ironic part,your so beloved PvP tournament is sponsored by some dude buying a sh*tload of gold to one of the biggest exploiter/proxy user there is lul. And there are a tons more of PvP player buying gold, mostly coming from exploiter, funny thing is that some people here are actually friends/guildmate with such people.

Again, why can't you guys answer this question, what is the difference between using proxy + enrage-notifier (which tells you "boss is enrage") versus the DPS meter which is allowed? How come proxy becomes a cheat/hack (whatever u wanna call it), but not the DPS meter then?

And lastly you're missing the point, whether you can google it in 2minutes or not is irrelevant. One can defend proxy without actually using it, hell I even know some people that were ok with it (again, talking about SP) but they aren't using it. According to your logic "defender of proxy" they should be banned. Yet here you are, posting link to github modules.

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While PvE player using SP will have a better dps, whoever lives closer to the server or has good hardware will have better dps than someone living in spain playing on 15fps. So what then?

This is the Developer's fault, their retarded coding makes this game indeed only playable for people who have decent ping. Every game is unplayable above a certain ping, just sadly in Tera this certain value is way too low. Also I think "Hardware Requirements" are not unheard of in gaming, people with pentium IIs and GTX 300 should look for other games in their range. Optimization in trash anyway, even with i7, 16 gb ram and gtx 1070 I have around 15 fps.... Oh wait there's a proxy for that too, that removes the players in your party so you can have much higher FPS.

The double keybinding is smart, I have to admit, it never crossed my mind to do that (never needed it). But there's still the mounting ,teleporting, autoretaliate (can be faster than a slow player's reaction, i guess), etc, benox's 1st post sums it up.

Yes I skipped auto-crystalbind (I hope you meant that), and auto loot, as those are indeed not harmful But sadly there's no way to selectively fix the proxy modules problem, all of them will be gone once they figure something out (if ever...)

According to Game Forge proxy is prohThat's why it should not useibited. That's why it should not use. No matter to improve the ping or to cheat. Let someday break something. Then you would wish never to have done anything with proxy. Because then you can pay a lot. Eventually the day will come.

Can you please explain, how to code in JSON?

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Can you please explain, how to code in JSON?

You won >

next step for benox sending a working slash lul.

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@jinh
- Proxy is coded in Json using node.js (JavaScript Object Notation)

Kek.
JSON is as u wrote JavaScript object notation.
This proxy is coded in JS and runs on top of node.js environment(implementation of Chrome V8 javascript engine with additional components).

JSON is Javascript object format. It just represents objectm you can't code in it