Slayer is toooo weak whats wrong

    huge ain't even a word for this - you will drope f.e. in an average vz run from 1,6-1,7mio (without lamb) to ~1,2.... meanwhile an "skilled" injector (what a shame to use this 2 words in combination) archer will do ~2mio without any struggles - even a decent zerk will wreck your ass easily, so you will drop from top tier dd to low tear right beneath the slayer :'D


    don't flame for that suggestion because FLAT 10% dmg on your mainskills means the crit-dmg-ratio from the pot will scale way worse so you will probably end up from 7-8mio in vz / crescent tick to ~5.5 (just a feeling, no math behind) which is huge.


    Edit: if you do so, please bring 4 CA/day for ld's in the club-package so we won't get sort out for random runs :'D

    Slayer will recieve some buffs with the next patch in KTERA. (after this one https://seraphinush-gaming.tum…a-devnote-2017julybalance )


    Thats what I know so far


    Overall
    - Attackspeed increased


    Overhandstrike
    - Damage increased
    - Crit rate increased


    Distance Blade
    - Damage increased


    Knockdown Strike
    - Castingspeed increased
    - Entire Glyph points adjusted

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    10% is huge but thats the dmg a Valk does on top of all classes. If you play her well you still will do plenty of dmg.


    Why don't make reaper and gunner good only when "play well"?



    I'm practically a guest now, but over years I see this discrimination of classes in this game and stupid arguments like "when play well".

    In PvE yep.
    In PvP, up to player. Slayer never became best in overall(or as dps,or as damage or as crit etc) anyways and as said at up, u need to give much more effort to kill your opponent, while others able to kill same opponent much easier than you.
    For me one of the reason which made Slayer weaker was;
    1- In past slayer was the kd guy for enemy with zerk, nowadays every1 including healers can kd opponents.. So an ability/an advantage which seperate you from others gone.
    2-More range classes = lesser chance for melees especially if u dont have block like zerk,lancer,brawler and warrior (other melees) has. They have nice blocks or more survivability while slayer insidly whispering with his last words "amen" right before he jumps to any fight.
    3- Again in past you were one of the good stagger classes(not best but). Nowadays nearly every1 has staggers and most of class better than u on staggers with only auto attack which much faster than yours.
    4-As slayer you can play nearly perfect and still easly lose in 1vs1. Seriously..Give full of your package to target but when see he can take same health u with 2 hits.... Morale fails, Swedish girl(a personal fantasy, skip it) hopes goes falls to deep ocean and you remember that guy(who killed u with 3-4 hits or 1-2 combo) was asking you his own skill and how to use it 5 mins ago.. So experience sure works but may not save you at the end, you can win but it was pfffff to close. And as lack of crit missing on you, you can remember all of your cursely bad words to the day you choosed slayer, even win, but why it's such unnecessary stressfull duel :)
    5-Every class has "anti" but any class can be "anti" for slayer :D


    Finally, as a slayer, you dont have anti-kd self buff, you are nor range nor exact melee (who has blocks), you never top1 dps or the one who hits crit non stop (oppositly praying in each hit to hit crit, tuf tuf amen, tuf tuf amen, tuf tuf this time pls ah no amen, tuf tuf amen, tuf tuf fight end no crit, amen), you are not someone who has nice defence also.


    But beyond all these , slayer is valuable to play, really. Did tons of duels in past or BG's, lost only couple of them. I dont have any ducking idea but lets say %90 winning ratue minimum. But even lets say if i would lose ALL of them, would still play with Slayer cause of that "challange" thing , instead of being; easy wiper, space bar-ic or atmospher-ic 1 hit handsome guy.
    I'm still handsome so np.
    But for beginners, that challange can be canseric. Dont forget slayer wasnt this weak in past, yes still wasnt strong enough lets say but never weak as last times.
    Nowadays a good slayer vs a good bla bla(any) class = bla bla class win.
    A perfect slayer VS a good bla bla(any) class = slayer may win, not %100..
    A perfect slayer VS not bad bla bla(any) class = Slayer wins
    A newbie slayer VS a newbie bla bla class = both possible, probably bla bla class but maaaaybe slayer too
    A hot Swedish girl even op newbie who playing with auto attack only VS extraordinary legend Slayer Mito = Offcourse girl wins, then may give her number to Mito, then maybe some other things , lalala :rolleyes:
    Joke joke.. Mito wins any conditions duckers!

    A very old anthic legend which is written on an unknown years old rock says :


    "All Slayer, Mito Slayest"


    :hail:

    I don' see these slayer buffs anywhere, even the google translated site of Nexon. What is the source of this ?

    man everytime ohs crit buff here and there .... Give it just built in 100% pseudoglyph like warrior scythe. For Measure Slice too ....


    Also give eviscerate a 60% chance to reset glyph

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    man everytime ohs crit buff here and there .... Give it just built in 100% pseudoglyph like warrior scythe. For Measure Slice too ....


    Also give eviscerate a 60% chance to reset glyph

    Or more like make OHS have no cooldown and increase mana cost, MS not having to chain for fast cast and replace IcB-no-OHS-cooldown effect with something else. Replace OHS reset glyph too with something else (crit chance *wink wink*).


    Add a high-cooldown, large aoe skill to compensate lack of presence in mass pvp. It could be a skill featuring many swords popping up from ground, above, or behind the slayer (some popular anime/manga references come to mind).
    I had/have so many similar ideas, but they'd go on deaf ears, so why bother.


    Such things could have been the slayer revamp, but will never happen, instead we got Valkyrie.

    I dont understand. By today is slayer still bad? ive been playing with it for 3 months and i love it. I also love it doing dungeons. Why people say its weak? i dont get it. Only because it is not the perfect class? or because it is not a top dpser?. What is ICB?? im using the gear and rolls i found in some guides and honestly, its one of the class im enjoying the most lol.

    @Miriad keep going as you are thats exactly the right attidude its a game its about fun and slayer is in a state where he is definetly playable and can do everything
    As far as i know he's one of the best awakening part 1 dd with talent system, but the problem is slayer was very long time not the top dps class which a lot of people only play at the moment in tera and not the class they love to play the most. You can check out Shiro who is a streamer from Yurian hes really good with slayer and probably helps you if u ask nicely.

    Slayer is a good class but it's also very complicated, you'll need to practise and improve a lot to be good at it. If it's the class you enjoy ignore what others say about it, most likely they've no idea what they're talking about.


    If this was a genuine question:
    ICB = in cold blood, it is your burst skill that you should use whenever the lancer uses his buffs (Guardian shout and adrenaline rush) or whenever the boss enrages if you have a brawler/warrior tank.


    Make sure you join this -> https://discord.gg/PvbWjH8 discord if you need any help, the discord is designated to slayers, you can learn a lot here.

    Hi,


    People don't play slayer because it was a meme back then. You did no damage, after your first rotation you had 0 mana and you were clunky as hell. After some patches they fixed it but Slayer is just an unpopular class to play. People rather play much easier classes to make damage instead of playing harder class. Slayer also have tons of resets, thats also a reason why people don't like this class.


    ICB = In Cold Blood



    Here is the latest Slayer guide: https://essentialmana.com/comprehensive-slayer-guide/


    And we also have a Slayer Discord: https://discord.gg/M4JNZjv



    Geetings,


    Shiro

    you need full crit on your accesoire otherwise u lack on crit. and u need a good knowledge to the class like how to use your combo and cooldowns. slayer is not weak, hes just under the dps the lowest. but not weak^^

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    you need full crit on your accesoire otherwise u lack on crit. and u need a good knowledge to the class like how to use your combo and cooldowns. slayer is not weak, hes just under the dps the lowest. but not weak^^

    Incredible insight right there buddy, slayer is weakest but not weak.......amazing.


    When i stopped playing they were already worst dps class, having quick look at moongourd i couldn't see slayer in first 50 of class rankings for 2 dungeons i checked so apparently nothing changed. Then again asking for any kind of buff here is same as asking for it in your local grocery store, effect will be the same.


    Really just ditch the class, they were terrible for like 90% of this games existence. Only times they were worth playing was after release due to backstab resets in pvp and after first part of awakening.

    Quote from DonaldDuck

    Incredible insight right there buddy, slayer is weakest but not weak.......amazing.


    When i stopped playing they were already worst dps class, having quick look at moongourd i couldn't see slayer in first 50 of class rankings for 2 dungeons i checked so apparently nothing changed. Then again asking for any kind of buff here is same as asking for it in your local grocery store, effect will be the same.


    Really just ditch the class, they were terrible for like 90% of this games existence. Only times they were worth playing was after release due to backstab resets in pvp and after first part of awakening.

    Well, funny thing is, some people play with slayer because they actually like to ENJOY the game and they like that class. Its not all about this is the best class or a dps monster or whatever. If you need the best of the best to "enjoy" the game, dude, you are doing it very wrong, sorry. Also, if you are not going to play pvp (who does nowadays anyways), whats the problem?. Even if that was the case, again, slayer has enough burst moves to be a dangerous class, you just need to know how to maximize his performance. If you like one class, it will be the most stupid thing to ditch it just because it is not the "best" class or it is one of the worst ones. You like it? thats the only thing you need.


    Seriously guys, please start enjoy the games you like and stop being such golden boys. And some people wonder why mmorpgs are most of em if not all, completely screwed.

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    Well, funny thing is, some people play with slayer because they actually like to ENJOY the game and they like that class. Its not all about this is the best class or a dps monster or whatever. If you need the best of the best to "enjoy" the game, dude, you are doing it very wrong, sorry. Also, if you are not going to play pvp (who does nowadays anyways), whats the problem?. Even if that was the case, again, slayer has enough burst moves to be a dangerous class, you just need to know how to maximize his performance. If you like one class, it will be the most stupid thing to ditch it just because it is not the "best" class or it is one of the worst ones. You like it? thats the only thing you need.


    Seriously guys, please start enjoy the games you like and stop being such golden boys. And some people wonder why mmorpgs are most of em if not all, completely screwed.

    Funny thing is that you just told someone who played this game almost exclusively as slayer since this game came out, that it's about enjoyment. You even capitalized it like it's supposed to mean something, it's not like if i stuck to it all this time I had to enjoy it or at least like the class, right ? Then you proceeded to moan about needing to maximize, you do that on any class sweetie. Thing is that your reply is just a classic copy paste "uh oh play what you enjoy uh oh" junk nobody asked for. You can enjoy driving junk car, but it wont change the fact that it's terrible compared to proper one. Not "Not the "best" class", but TERRIBLE and not much changed for years. Investing money and resources into it, in the end is a waste. You can realize it now, or many months from now, all you do with your useless "uh oh play what you enjoy" responses is waste time of new players who might be interested in picking up something that isnt gimped from beginning.


    Also when it comes to mmo's, you are absolutely and utterly clueless as to why they are as you said, screwed. Believe or not many years ago there were also copy paste time wasting responses, just like there were brutally honest opinions backed up by experience.

    Erm, i play with slayer since 1 year ago. And never regreted it. I dont find it lackluster talking about dps or anything else for the matter. I love how the class performs, i love how the the smooth chained animations are performed (unlike other classes) and i love the skills. I just love the class style, period. But i dont pay attention if it is doing extreme dps or if it is performing better than my zerk or my warrior. Of course i maximize their dps and i maximize the gear or whatever when i can (what else you gonna do?) , but thats not the point. Even if i know that it is "worst" than most classes, i enjoy it, i really dont know whats hard to understand. If people could think this way, instead discarding any class in the moment they see its worst than most, things would change, but sadly its not the case.


    mmorpgs? dude, im so tired of em lol. Ive bee nplaying mmorpgs since 20 years ago. Until 1 year ago i was playing 5 mmorpgs at the same time. Until i realized i didnt have time and i switched to Tera. Funny thing is, im about to stop playing Tera now and switch to other one because there is only so much stupidity i can stand from the developers. But yeah, one of the main reasons mmorpgs reach a point where they are completely broken is that people only care about dps dps dps and other things that are not that important. Its not new what im saying. In every single mmorpg you reach a point where the only goal is to maximize your gear to keep up with strong mobs, and thats the wheel, nothing more. Most companies dont worry anymore about making fun and well designed content because they know the only thing people want the most is to just keep gearing and maximizing and thats it. And this happens in every single mmorpg. If you cant see it, well, suit yourself.