I hope this will help some players, especially those from PvE servers.
Gimme a break, will ya!?
Wasn't going to say a thing about your crystal setup suggestions but cruel for gunner is stupid, so is resolute for lancer. Every 2nd or 3rd major archer skill used (radiant and ranged trap) is likely to kd someone and not using cruel is a potential loss of damage. It's another story how often a lancer has a forceful proc. lmao I personally prefer a warding niv + 1 relentless + 1 resolute + 1 griev on healers who are often focus and sometimes kd locked. Moreover, the warding effect seems to counter staggers while in effect.
Good stuff overall but the quoted sentence above is plain lame.
Can't wait until a moderator decides the thread should be closed due to 'lack of arguable content'. It's just a guide after all, nothing to discuss, innit? /sarcasm
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Gimme a break, will ya!?
Wasn't going to say a thing about your crystal setup suggestions but cruel for gunner is stupid, so is resolute for lancer. Every 2nd or 3rd major archer skill used (radiant and ranged trap) is likely to kd someone and not using cruel is a potential loss of damage. It's another story how often a lancer has a forceful proc. lmao I personally prefer a warding niv + 1 relentless + 1 resolute + 1 griev on healers who are often focus and sometimes kd locked. Moreover, the warding effect seems to counter staggers while in effect.
Good stuff overall but the quoted sentence above is plain lame.
Can't wait until a moderator decides the thread should be closed due to 'lack of arguable content'. It's just a guide after all, nothing to discuss, innit? /sarcasm
I think this guide is good enough for beginners. About using resolute or grieving, is up to you. Besides, those people you see in the video, can play their class pretty well, and I don´t think there is any player with the same class form the PvE pool who can play better 3vs3. And yes I know what I say since I did 3vs3 in both pools. But don´t take it personally, it is just so, that most players with wrong crystals are from PvE servers. I don´t even want to comment about what you said to the healers crystals.
To bad that GF doesn´t put both pools togheder, at least just for the 3vs3 team event. In the Killian pool is almost no premade from the PvE servers, because they lose almost every match.
Are you mad because you get killed by the PvE pool?
As far i can see both pools have the same amount of ppl using the "wrong" crystals.
The PvP pool has more good players, this doesn't mean that they are better.
And the best player atm comes from the PvE pool anyways.
Besides, those people you see in the video, can play their class pretty well, and I don´t think there is any player with the same class form the PvE pool who can play better 3vs3.
I thought you might say that. Just because they use these setups it doesn't make them universal or the best possible for either beginners or advanced players.
But don´t take it personally, it is just so, that most players with wrong crystals are from PvE servers.
I will stop taking it personally when you stop being so condescending towards people outside Killian when it comes to PvP. People wear the wrong crystals because a) they don't know any better or b) they don't care. Just because someone started playing Tera on Killian, this doesn't mean they know better or they care more.
I don't know who Omega is referring to but the likes of Mirec, Akitsuna, Sooop, this annoying mystic with an attitude whose name I forgot (ah, got it - ssionn) etc all come from the other pool. Unless you think they suck, that is.
I don´t even want to comment about what you said to the healers crystals.
No, do comment, please. If 2 relentless scale better than 1 resolute + 1 warding, I'd like to know why. Thank you!
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I thought you might say that. Just because they use these setups it doesn't make them universal or the best possible for either beginners or advanced players.
I will stop taking it personally when you stop being so condescending towards people outside Killian when it comes to PvP. People wear the wrong crystals because a) they don't know any better or b) they don't care. Just because someone started playing Tera on Killian, this doesn't mean they know better or they care more.
I don't know who Omega is referring to but the likes of Mirec, Akitsuna, Sooop, this annoying mystic with an attitude whose name I forgot (ah, got it - ssionn) etc all come from the other pool. Unless you think they suck, that is.
No, do comment, please. If 2 relentless scale better than 1 resolute + 1 warding, I'd like to know why. Thank you!
The fact is that most of the good players have these crystals you see in my videos. And the players who came from PvE server to Killian and are good, use the same or almost the same crystals you see in my video. Also I came from Zuras to Killian, but I became good when I was on Killian. I was a noob on Zuras. As for the PvE pool Fraya-Arcadia, the best players from that pool in 3vs3 would be only decent on Killian, unless they become better, what I think that some of them would. There are also some players who changed to Killian and did not do 3vs3 or were to bad and went back to Fraya and are top 5 ranked in 3vs3. I play now on Killian with unstable ms, I get often 100-200 ms and I bet that I can make rank 1 in 3vs3 on Fraya even with this ping, because I know how bad the players from that pool are. I remember when I was on fraya and I did 3vs3, I was with 1000 and 900 rating vs 1300 rating warrior, berserker or sorcerer from french server and I made them 1000 rating, and I was feeling like I play vs noobs or decent players.
About the healer crystals: I even can kill priests who have 3 relentless through 1 backstab combo, in some situations. Healers who have only 1 or 2 relentless, would take to much dmg from me, and I am just an a stance warrior.
I just want to help you, but you guys prove ignorance. However, this guide is anyway for beginners who really want to improve, not for some big egos from PvE servers, who think they know better.
@Omega
What´s the name of the best player you mean and on what server does he play? I am interested, I think almost every PvP player, would like to fight the best player.
Are you mad because you get killed by the PvE pool?
As far i can see both pools have the same amount of ppl using the "wrong" crystals.
The PvP pool has more good players, this doesn't mean that they are better.
That's funny since Zenobia is in PvP pool and 90% of all zenobia in 3v3 solo are mugato players with hardy crux/niveots.
You see, when we say stuff like this, it's not based on the PvE servers themselves or technically what they are. It's based on observations of their communities. Pretty simple.
(nobody said there's no mugato players on killian either -- but not 90% of killian you see in skyring, lmao, it's more like the other way around)
Just saying but healer with 2 relentless doesn't take more damage than with 3, it just has "4K" less hp, talks about ignorance....
But yeah overall the idea is good (pretty sure there was some guide about it already tho (?) )
And if u kill the enemy priest in 1 Backstab , the answer is easy : soloq gear is retarded AND ur opponents sucks.
Anyway back on topic, cruel on gunner isn't even that bad cuz they just kd u from 30 m away and that's the only thing they can do actually, it's not even viable atm cuz 90% of the gunners sucks and soloq gear is terrible
But anyway weapon crystals can be adapted and resolute for lancer is viable as well
Great idea now enjoy getting mugatos anyway cuz 10% of Tera reads forum so yh
Anyway back on topic, cruel on gunner isn't even that bad cuz they just kd u from 30 m away and that's the only thing they can do actually, it's not even viable atm cuz 90% of the gunners sucks and soloq gear is terrible
But anyway weapon crystals can be adapted and resolute for lancer is viable as well
I got it, yeah. I don't have a gunner alt, so I wasn't aware (before checking some gunner PoV vids just now) MM had such a big impact after they made it 100% kd 'chance'.
Resolute works for just any class but lancer in particular goes rarely below 50%. Tbh, if it's a dyad, I'd use it anyway, esp if it has a useful secondary stat.
[...] As for the PvE pool Fraya-Arcadia, the best players from that pool in 3vs3 would be only decent on Killian, unless they become better, what I think that some of them would. [...]
I just want to help you, but you guys prove ignorance. However, this guide is anyway for beginners who really want to improve, not for some big egos from PvE servers, who think they know better.
You're just proving my point. I tried giving you a hint that looking down on people is bad but you seem to be content with this sort of behaviour and way of thinking. I love how you magically turned from a noob into a pro after your char transfer was complete.
If you replace 'PvE' in your own sentence with 'PvP', you'll be surprised how accurate it becomes. Let me do it for you: '... not for some big egos from PvP servers...'
So, I just went over 2 of your crusade statistics threads from last year and - oh, miracle! - Mirec in top 3 on the whole server, Akitsuna in top 3, even Specullum (rip Spec :D), saw also Scottia, and Naive. Already mentioned ssionn. And god knows how many more 'pve trashes' who 'became better once they switched servers'.
Don't get me wrong - thumbs up for your continuous effort but your attitude just sucks big time.
See, that is where you guys are wrong.
Just because some people are best on your servers it doesn't mean that they play on the highest level.
You live in your mid-high-skilled world where you believe that the best players from your server are pros, but they are in fact far away from it.
I'v seen many unknown players throughout the years with and without guilds that outperformed the better known players.
See, that is where you guys are wrong.
Just because some people are best on your servers it doesn't mean that they play on the highest level.
You live in your mid-high-skilled world where you believe that the best players from your server are pros, but they are in fact far away from it.
I'v seen many unknown players throughout the years with and without guilds that outperformed the better known players.
I hope you're not addressing me with this. 
I understand well enough that the situation skill-wise in our pool is not the greatest but dismissing people's skill level and self-driven effort to improve just because they play on a PvE server is narrow-minded. Claiming that someone is better by default *just because they play on Killian* is absurd. Same applies to 'most ppl on Killian are skillful, unlike people on other servers' claims. Just because there are more people there it doesn't necessarily make them better. lol Yes, ofc skill develops with practice (and more practice) but PvP wasn't invented on Killian, please. o_O People with a god-complex should really rethink their (in-game) world views. This superiority flaw in some folks' mindset is both annoying and concerning. Hence the bad name for the population there as a whole.
On topic: OP should clearly state these are recommended setups based on personal preference and common use. There's also a typo in one of the slides but I don't remember which one (+3, +31).
Mystic buffs confirmed.
3x grieving crux
1.) Killian players doing skyring in pve crystals too, its known fact. But usually players from Killian (that play skyring), they will come to VO and duel there 1st. So I dont know situation on PvE servers, but I imagine VO has way less players there at peak hours.
2.) There were some decent Zenobia players in que, but mostly they cant even use crystals. Situation is different on bigger servers I imagine. So Fraya shouldnt be confused with Zenobia. We can comapare Zenobia with Icaruna ("pvp" server).
3.) Those crystals setups are personal choice and not must have. That video is also ignoring secondary effects. So some players arent using mana crystals because they can easily have 8x mana and it doesnt even show it. Or someone can have 4xhp as secondary effect, so why not add some warding/resolute crystal in there. Only crystal that every dps should have is savage. Also how game is envolving... Cruel is top choice. Because every class can follow up on target that is on floor.
4.) 90+% players on Killian didnt even start on Killian. But it doesnt matter where you start, it matters where you finish. Watching one of best pre-65 players youtube channel (slayer, priest,...) you can see certain sorc that was mentioned here in that video. So idk if he is constantly transfering between servers or he was on Killian for last two years. Aslo you can see certain mystic that ressed 2v3 in soloq. That good some players were in past (and no, it wasnt 1k rating match).
Sunflare: I was talking about both PvP and PvE pool.
@Lupu: You clearly don't know the whole history nor you seem to have a clue how good the PvE pool is in PvP.
Like i already said, the best PvE players are even with the best PvP server players. PvP pool (Killian) just has a higher amount of good players.
For your information: i am playing on nearly every server, even german and french ones for over 3 years. Total of 11 lvl65 chars. Im not defending the PvE pool in any ways, i myself started even on a PvP server.
You are saying PvE players have to change to Killian in order to prove something. That is total bullshit. In another sentence you mention Codex, Blacklight and other barely high skilled guilds that got totaly wrecked in FC by Isharas 2nd and especially 1st generation players for months. In these situations we have clearly seen who the real pros were.
One of these 1st gen Ishara guys is still playing till today on the PvE pool. I consider myself a 2nd gen player, still playing on mixed servers. But that's all what is left of the really good EU players. And no, i am not going to mention any names, not even my char names.
You also need to get rid of your belief that Skyring proves skill or that ranking means something. It's ridiculous and none of the real PvP pro players would think this way.
If you want to prove something (as bad as it sounds) you need to go CS and search for 1on1 situations where the gear is equal. Sadly CS is the only thing that counts today as far as PvP goes.
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@Lupu: You clearly don't know the whole history nor you seem to have a clue how good the PvE pool is in PvP.
Like i already said, the best PvE players are even with the best PvP server players. PvP pool (Killian) just has a higher amount of good players.
For your information: i am playing on nearly every server, even german and french ones for over 3 years. Total of 11 lvl65 chars. Im not defending the PvE pool in any ways, i myself started even on a PvP server.
You are saying PvE players have to change to Killian in order to prove something. That is total bullshit. In another sentence you mention Codex, Blacklight and other barely high skilled guilds that got totaly wrecked in FC by Isharas 2nd and especially 1st generation players for months. In these situations we have clearly seen who the real pros were.
One of these 1st gen Ishara guys is still playing till today on the PvE pool. I consider myself a 2nd gen player, still playing on mixed servers. But that's all what is left of the really good EU players. And no, i am not going to mention any names, not even my char names.
You also need to get rid of your belief that Skyring proves skill or that ranking means something. It's ridiculous and none of the real PvP pro players would think this way.
If you want to prove something (as bad as it sounds) you need to go CS and search for 1on1 situations where the gear is equal. Sadly CS is the only thing that counts today as far as PvP goes.
Codex was not always active, I gave just an example when Codex was active and was top ranked in the Crusade. When the crusade came out, there was no server Ishara. I don´t speak from 3 years ago, I speak from the time exactly before the players mentioned by Sunflare transfered to Killian. I also didn´t mentioned PvE players have to transfer to Killian in order to prove something. You said that the best player in game is on PvE server, and if someone says he is the best, he also have to prove this, and you cannot prove that you are the best in PvP in a pool where you fight bad players with 1300 rating in 3vs3. We speak about now and not about 3 years ago, when we speak about best players. There are a lot of players who had high rating before and were good, but now they are not more so good. Also I was pretty op 3-4 months ago, but now I am not more so good, because I have to high ms. And what arguments do you bring, if you say that CS or some other kind of PvP is better than 3vs3, or let´s say more balanced. I think 3vs3 is the most balanced kind of PvP in tera. I remember a trash sorc who I had in 3vs3 solo q and was so bad, and I was giving him adives and he was so ignorant and was telling me that I don´t understand, that he did the first 3vs3. He was meaning that he did 3vs3 when it came out and that he was good, that doesn´t mean 3vs3 is the same as it was and nothing changed, if you don´t improve, you become bad. In my opinion every player who says he is good, but he is afraid to fight, because he is afraid to lose, he sucks and I don´t like such players. If I don´t fight for 2-3 months, I cannot say that I am good, because I don´t know, especially in Tera, where you can so fast new patches and changes.
I still wait for the name of this best pvp player, you mentioned. I am a guy who loves to fight and I would like to fight this guy, even if I am not so strong. I want to see how dangerous he is.
If you want to fight queue for CS or when an event is up queue for FC. When a unknown players kills all the known players you know what the deal is.
Dude please nobody cares about what you say since 1) you don't give any names (for obvious reasons) and 2) I'm from Ishara too and I know all of those "1st gen" or whatever and they were ALL crushed by certain Killian teams and the only thing they were good at was PKing low-geared people, so please be quiet.
And lastly nobody cares if, hypothetically, the best player is from PvE server. That guy doesn't need this guide anyway. It's a FACT that 90% of players from Zenobia (since it's in the PvP pool) have mugato PvE crystals. So obviously this thread doesn't care about the 10% who get it right, even if they are good. Ishara is bad too right now, but it's more like 50/50, not 90/10.
Nobody cares if there's a few good players in PvE server (even if better than the best on Killian). As long as the MAJORITY are in PvE crystals, and that's a FACT. But you wouldn't know, since you don't queue for skyring (which is what this thread is about, check title, it says 3v3), or at least not on PvP pool.
EDIT: Oh and 1v1 in CS sure is a great way to see who desyncs or lags less or has less grey sillhouettes.
If you want to fight queue for CS or when an event is up queue for FC. When a unknown players kills all the known players you know what the deal is.
Yes, when an unknown player kills a known good player in an equalized BG in 1vs1 and both have the same buffs, that means the unknown player is better(or he just has a better class for 1vs1). But I never was killed in the last year, in CS for example, in an balanced 1vs1 by an unknown random. I mean in 1vs1 when I really go on him to do 1vs1 with him. I was killed only by good players in 1vs1 in EQ battlegrounds. If that´s what you mean, because if you mean, when I for example have 20% hp and have cd on almost all skills and some noob jumps on me and kills me and you mean this guy is better, than I don´t even want to discuss about this. But such fights, doesn´t happen often in mass PvP battlegrounds, to be with someone really 1vs1 and both have buffs.
Such an unknown, if he can defeat good players in balanced 1vs1 fights, he will not be anymore unknown, if he does often PvP. You cannot do often PvP, be good and be unknown, because people see you are dangerous after they are killed. Also I, when I am in 3vs3 vs some randoms and I don´t focus 100%, because I think they are not strong enough and I get rekt, than I think that this random guy is good, and so I keep his name in my mind to not do the same mistake when I fight him again.
Again, I still wait for the unknown player you mean he is the best, I think every PvP player who loves to fight, would like to fight him.
@Borusc: You were 3rd gen at best. When i say gen i mean generation by progress, not by timeline.
You were not in this kind of community so even if i would mention ppl from 1st or 2nd gen you would have no clue.
And im telling you again that i will not call any names.
Define "progress". Achievements in game?
Red didn't even pass 1500 in skyring :rofl:
3rd gen got 1700
your logic is superb.
